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    Crisis in the US newspaper industry

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    Quoted from article(He worries that the widespread cost-cutting and possible closures threaten to devalue journalism - and democracy - in America.

    "An important and vital part of democracy is vanishing before our very eyes, whether the public realises it or not," he told me.)


    Quite how the loss of the printed word on paper devalues either Journalism and or Democracy in America is beyond my understanding.
    News stories will continue to be written and read, albeit on the internet.
    Democracy (at least what we call Democracy) will continue to be practised in some form or other regardless of whether we read news on the Internet or out of a paper.
    As for ( "An important and vital part of democracy is vanishing before our very eyes, whether the public realises it or not,") this strikes me as so much hyperbole.

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    Re: Crisis in the US newspaper industry

    They're worrying about journalism being devalued now?

    Corporatized "journalism" still dominates the U.S. media and that's what the author of the article is most worried about. I would hardly call it democratic though. The amount of half-truths and frankly bald faced lies I have seen come out of the corporate sector have made me have more respect for independent journalists in recent years. A lot of important stories that people should know about never appear on network television or in the papers.

    Grassroots based journalists will continue to function because such organizations have never relied on a huge budget to get their stories published.

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    Re: Crisis in the US newspaper industry

    I've actually heard that the smaller operations are doing much better than larger ones that have borrowed a lot of money to expand without having an emergency plan. I don't think that refers to the conglomerates like Fox, but there have been a significant number of "larger small" outlets that have run out of business recently (can someone help me with specifics here? I completely forgot the names).

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    Re: Crisis in the US newspaper industry

    Denver lost a legacy when the Rocky Mountain News closed.

    They came to be in 1869 and they died in 2009.

    It's a travesty.

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    Re: Crisis in the US newspaper industry

    It's not a travesty, it's technology. The newspapers are and have been a dying media source. With the internet being available on your phone, 24/7 cable news coverage and even talk radio, this was inevitable. The writing has been on the wall for quite some time.
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    Re: Crisis in the US newspaper industry

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
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    Quoted from article(He worries that the widespread cost-cutting and possible closures threaten to devalue journalism - and democracy - in America.

    "An important and vital part of democracy is vanishing before our very eyes, whether the public realises it or not," he told me.)
    Yes... it's vital when the press reports news... or when they take a side... they are open about it. This is not the norm.

    When Joe the Plumber achieved more in 5-minutes than the AMMP (American Mainstream Media Party / Democrat socialists) achieved in 18-months... it tells you the press sucks pretty bad.

    What did they do after Joe strung Obama along and had him reveal who he really is and what he really thinks and wants to do?
    Ask Obama about his Tax & Spread the wealth plan?
    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
    Did they ask Obama to explain what Spread the wealth meant... in detail?
    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

    They attacked Joe. They did more investigative journalism about Joe in three days than they did about Obama for 18-months.

    The press is doing their job alright... they are very good propagandists for the leftists.

    Losing the papers wouldn't be a loss. It would be a benefit.

    We have the internet, radio and TV.

    They made their bed... now enjoy a good long... permanent sleep.
    The sooner we can say Good-Bye to the rats... the better.


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    Re: Crisis in the US newspaper industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    They're worrying about journalism being devalued now?

    Corporatized "journalism" still dominates the U.S. media and that's what the author of the article is most worried about. I would hardly call it democratic though. The amount of half-truths and frankly bald faced lies I have seen come out of the corporate sector have made me have more respect for independent journalists in recent years. A lot of important stories that people should know about never appear on network television or in the papers.

    Grassroots based journalists will continue to function because such organizations have never relied on a huge budget to get their stories published.
    I wouldn't say it flourishes, certainly in Britain. There are blogs and all that but the vast majority of people get the vast majority of their news and current affairs from large, mass media TV, Radio and Newspaper outlets.

    The power of the mass media is very worrying. In Britain Blair often ignored parliament and tried to court the media instead. The discussion over the Iraq war was almost all in the media.
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    Re: Crisis in the US newspaper industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post

    The power of the mass media is very worrying. In Britain Blair often ignored parliament and tried to court the media instead. The discussion over the Iraq war was almost all in the media.
    Reagan was similar.
    When he needed to he went past the media filter directly to the people.

    It's about the only time I'll watch CNN or the BBC. Live events where they can't cut out the guts, and can't comment alongside.

    How these people butcher the news is pretty incredible. It's why talk radio and the internet are valuable. These mediums fill in the blanks the "press" tries to sweep under the carpet... and time after time they get their knuckles rapped... they still think they can get away with slanting the news without admitting their bias.
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    Re: Crisis in the US newspaper industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    The power of the mass media is very worrying. In Britain Blair often ignored parliament and tried to court the media instead. The discussion over the Iraq war was almost all in the media.
    Indeed. When government wants to, it can just pitch a story to the media and let them contort it in such a way that it gains support. In Canada, the CBC is partially funded by the Canadian Government, and so, it is my belief, that the government tells them what they can and cannot air. I don't know to what extent, but...

    Anyway, I think corporatized media, in the least, is controlled by the executives, and if the executives have political ties, it becomes a defacto government news network. All someone from the government has to do is call up an exec. and ask them to pull a story, or pitch a story.

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    Re: Crisis in the US newspaper industry

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Reagan was similar.
    When he needed to he went past the media filter directly to the people.

    It's about the only time I'll watch CNN or the BBC. Live events where they can't cut out the guts, and can't comment alongside.

    How these people butcher the news is pretty incredible. It's why talk radio and the internet are valuable. These mediums fill in the blanks the "press" tries to sweep under the carpet... and time after time they get their knuckles rapped... they still think they can get away with slanting the news without admitting their bias.
    That's not what I was saying. I meant Blair appealed to the media and PR and often ignored parliament. Discussions over the possible Iraq war were going on in the media in the summer of 2002 and yet it took until february 2003 for parliament to discuss and vote on it, a discussion that Blair and most ministers absented themselves until the vote may it be added.
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