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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    It wasn't in jest, I'm asking questions because I don't know.




    what? why i want to own what you call an "assault rifle"?


    Why not?

    Why do some people want to kite board?

    Why do some people hate soccer?

    Why do some people box?


    Why do some people prepare for natural disasters?

    Why do some people get doctorates in chinese medicine?


    I guess I don't really understand your question.
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    It doesn't take much to prove you wrong. Take Dylan Harris, for example: Hi-Point 995 Carbine 9 mm semi-automatic rifle with thirteen 10-round magazines, fired 96 times.
    The only house of cards here is you and your apeasement of mass murderers.


    This weapon was not considered an "assault rifle" under the previous AWB.....


    It is basically a large 9mm pistol with a stock.



    FAIL


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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Coming into this late... wow there have been a lot of replies!

    For my understanding, can some pro-gun people explain something to me?

    Why do you want to own an assault rifle? Is it in case you need to fight your government? Fend off an intruder? Do you plan to go hunting with one? Or is it "just because"?

    I don't really understand the need to have an assault rifle. Also, can someone explain to me if the constitution mentions unlimited access to any firearm, or if it's just to "firearms" as a rule? If the latter, then the government can technically restrict your firearms all they want, as long as you have access to some, no?
    All of them, fighting the gov't is a particular use for that weapon though.

    And no they can't restrict it, talking of the US, although it depends on your intepretation of the constitution to a degree. If you use the one the interpretation that even the pro-central gov't Hamilton prefered of a strict construction then they cannot because the constitution grants the feds no power to do this(without twisting words and such.).
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    It doesn't take much to prove you wrong. Take Dylan Harris, for example: Hi-Point 995 Carbine 9 mm semi-automatic rifle with thirteen 10-round magazines, fired 96 times.
    The only house of cards here is you and your apeasement of mass murderers.
    lol, maybe you should get your story straight on what an assault rifle is.

    A pistol with a stock on it, that's still not full auto or select fire.. is not an assault rifle.

    Try again.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Here I will do you a favor:

    YouTube - Armed Bank Robbery
    What's funny about this, they were using full auto ak47s. Your average citizen cannot buy those legally (already under NFA law), so that makes your post irrelevant.

    Please try again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Coming into this late... wow there have been a lot of replies!

    For my understanding, can some pro-gun people explain something to me?

    Why do you want to own an assault rifle? Is it in case you need to fight your government? Fend off an intruder? Do you plan to go hunting with one? Or is it "just because"?

    I don't really understand the need to have an assault rifle. Also, can someone explain to me if the constitution mentions unlimited access to any firearm, or if it's just to "firearms" as a rule? If the latter, then the government can technically restrict your firearms all they want, as long as you have access to some, no?
    I won't be a douche to you.

    Most people ask why I want a 338 lapua magnum... at $5 a round, and a bullet that's still supersonic at 1 mile. Many say, it's way too much of a round for a normal person to have... same with my friends who have 50 bmgs.

    The same could be said to anyone who drives a luxury car, or sports car when they don't need it. But, because our nation was built the way it is... we as citizens have no need, nor should we ever be compelled to explain why we need any of our rights. When you start explaining why you need them.. that's when it becomes easier for them to take them under other justifications.

    As for ar15s and ak47s (civilian versions of course). They're fun to shoot... and well... they're pretty well designed to kill zombies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This weapon was not considered an "assault rifle" under the previous AWB.....

    It is basically a large 9mm pistol with a stock.

    FAIL


    Did you honestly believe he'd post anything relevant / factual?
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    I don't expect anything any hoplophobe to post to be relevant/factual.
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post

    What's funny about this, they were using full auto ak47s. Your average citizen cannot buy those legally (already under NFA law), so that makes your post irrelevant.
    It isn't that hard to figure how to convert these weapons.

    Oh and here is a tid bit from the front page of the NYT:

    PHOENIX The Mexican agents who moved in on a safe house full of drug dealers last May were not prepared for the fire power that greeted them.

    When the shooting was over, eight agents were dead. Among the guns the police recovered was an assault rifle traced back across the border to a dingy gun store here called X-Caliber Guns.

    Now, the owner, George Iknadosian, will go on trial on charges he sold hundreds of weapons, mostly AK-47 rifles, to smugglers, knowing they would send them to a drug cartel in the western state of Sinaloa. The guns helped fuel the gang warfare in which more than 6,000 Mexicans died last year.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/us...0Bazzar&st=cse
    BTW I have not stated my position on the AWB. And when I see things like the above going I have serious concerns about these weapons even though I do think we have the RIGHT to own these weapons.
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I don't expect anything any hoplophobe to post to be relevant/factual.
    Humor me here. What is a hoplophobe?
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Coming into this late... wow there have been a lot of replies!

    For my understanding, can some pro-gun people explain something to me?

    Why do you want to own an assault rifle? Is it in case you need to fight your government? Fend off an intruder? Do you plan to go hunting with one? Or is it "just because"?

    I don't really understand the need to have an assault rifle. Also, can someone explain to me if the constitution mentions unlimited access to any firearm, or if it's just to "firearms" as a rule? If the latter, then the government can technically restrict your firearms all they want, as long as you have access to some, no?
    I asked the same questions at the beginning of the thread. They won't answer, they just get defensive and violent. I originally said that gun owners must of necessity be more responsible and mature than the average person - the resonse of these contributors has caused me to doubt that belief.

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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I asked the same questions at the beginning of the thread. They won't answer, they just get defensive and violent. I originally said that gun owners must of necessity be more responsible and mature than the average person - the resonse of these contributors has caused me to doubt that belief.




    I answered it twice. please review the thread.


    btw, how does one get "violent" in a thread? Are you ok?
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Where has he appeased them? He simply does not want to remove the rights and liberties of citizens. Your post makes no sense.
    It only makes sense if you THINK. By guaranteeing the rights of people to own weapons with more firepower than law enforcement, capable of firing unlimited rounds in a short amount of time, you are not only appeasing, but enabling potential mass murderers and terrorists.

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