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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Hey, if it's legal, I don't care if you use a rocket launcher. I'm just saying by MY standards.

    I prefer using my compound bow. But that's just me.


    My .3006 is awesome in the woods too. But once you pull the string back on a 10 pointer at 30 yards and drop it to the ground, it adds a whole new perspective on one's sense of sportsmanship.

    That's all'z I'm sayin'.
    Me too. I have hunted with a number of guns and I personally would rather have a bow.
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    I think I'll use my 2nd amendment right for the installation of my new gun turret.

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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I think I'll use my 2nd amendment right for the installation of my new gun turret.
    If you are arming up for eventual confrontation with the US Army, you'll need quite a bit more firepower than that.
    It just amazes me that people think they can "take back the government" with their guns. Are they children? Have they not seen the firepower that the Commander in Chief presides over?

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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    If you are arming up for eventual confrontation with the US Army, you'll need quite a bit more firepower than that.
    It just amazes me that people think they can "take back the government" with their guns. Are they children? Have they not seen the firepower that the Commander in Chief presides over?
    No, this is for hunting purposes.
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    No, this is for hunting purposes.
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    And yes I realize this is out of context but these are points that must be adressed
    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post

    the only "sane" legislation that an anti-gun spokesperson can pass would be a ban on the entirety of guns, and indoingso they would have to find a way to take back all the guns that are already in the hands of citizens, as the argument against gun is only one of "that a gun can kill".
    If we are to pass legislation against things that kill, then we cannot just single out guns. I wouldn't need a gun if I really wanted to kill someone; that is a ridiculous claim. If you are going to ban guns, then you are going to also have to ban: sharp-things (swords, knives, kitchen knives, mechanical tools, tools found in hospitals, etc) blunt-thing (hammers, sledgehammers, rocks, etc), natural disasters (hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, earthquakes), and finally, humanity (as it is never the gun that decides to fire on someone).
    Already being tried in England, and, given the level of idiocy that seeks to ban firearms, their idiotic ideas are not far removed from becoming American stupidity as well, since our idiots try very hard to duplicate international idiocy under an American flag.

    I do, however, support legislation that forces gun buyers to know w.t.f they are buying; like licenses.
    Then you do not support the 2nd amendment or the spirit behind it, because the idea of licensing or infringing said right turns it into a priveledge.


    But this whole "anti-constitutional" complaining I see the Libertarians and the Rest-Wingers doing is ridiculous. Y'all do realize that our "rights" are "privileges" as any of these can be taken away from you. I am sorry to inform y'all, but our Constitutional rights only apply as long as the Government sees fit.
    Wrong, the Bill of Rightstm are considered natural human rights obtained by birth and granted as human, which is why you failed on this. Also, the right shall not be infringed as written in the constitution, not the priveledge.
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I think it's pretty clear that the hardcore firearms enthusiasts believe they need weapons for a pending overthrow of the government, and that "liberals" know that overthrow is coming and use "firearm regulation" to try to disarm the "patriots" before they can rise up. We really are on different planets.
    You really missed the mark on this one. The many serious gun owners that I know are some of the most decent people I've ever met. These guys aren't survivalists living in a bunker in Montana. Most of these guys are generally not politically motivated, but messing with their gun ownership rights strikes a nerve. Some are serious collectors, and maybe there is something macho about shooting big caliber weapons and making loud noises. Most if not all of these guys are avid hunters, although they own many weapons that they would never take hunting. Most have handguns for personal protection, and the smart ones have taught their family members to respect such weapons. Those that do indulge in political discussions make it clear that anti-gun laws are just another way for the government to chip away at our constitutional rights.

    Your view, WillRockwell, is much more paranoid than that of most gun owners!
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by rebelbuc View Post
    You really missed the mark on this one. The many serious gun owners that I know are some of the most decent people I've ever met. These guys aren't survivalists living in a bunker in Montana. Most of these guys are generally not politically motivated, but messing with their gun ownership rights strikes a nerve. Some are serious collectors, and maybe there is something macho about shooting big caliber weapons and making loud noises. Most if not all of these guys are avid hunters, although they own many weapons that they would never take hunting. Most have handguns for personal protection, and the smart ones have taught their family members to respect such weapons. Those that do indulge in political discussions make it clear that anti-gun laws are just another way for the government to chip away at our constitutional rights.

    Your view, WillRockwell, is much more paranoid than that of most gun owners!

    You are wrong, and make the same mistake as other 2nd amendment apologists of attributing automatic "liberal" motives for my response. You can't seem to understand that a person can approve of firearms, support hunting, yet feel the need to restrict certain firearms which can be used to commit mass murder. My point is that a gun owner, who by definition must be a responsible adult, should understand that certain guns should not be available to certain people. This opinion is not an excuse to begin taking away your guns, and is not in violation of the 2nd amendment.
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Care to expand?
    It's sad that I even have to expand. It is self-evident. Our rights are our rights, they are innate and inalienable. That means they can not be taken away, not even by the government. Government can use force to suppress the exercise of our rights, but they can never take them. Such action taken without due process of law is called treason and should be taken very seriously.

    Our rights are very important as the acknowledgment of them in their full force and beauty is what restricts the government from doing as it pleases. It's what places all seat of authority and power to the People and not the government. The government you describe is a treasonous government full of tyranny and authoratative control over the People. But when the founders fought to make this new land, they envisioned a land not where the government or the King was the sovereign, but rather a land in which the People were the sovereign. When you talk of rights in the disparaging and dismissing tone which you used, you enact very dangerous rhetoric. You place power in the hands of the government and not in the hands of the People. You strip from me my exercise of my rights, the acknowledgment that I have rights, and threaten my very freedom and liberty. It is for this reason that you fail. You fail because you fail to understand the very basics of freedom and liberty; that which the founders fought so hard for. That for which the government strives against, that the corrupted parties which to destroy. You have resigned yourself to slavery, you have failed in your duties as a freeman, and you have failed in your determination and resolve to keep this Republic.
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    Re: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    You are wrong, and make the same mistake as other 2nd amendment apologists of attributing automatic "liberal" motives for my response. You can't seem to understand that a person can approve of firearms, support hunting, yet feel the need to restrict certain firearms which can be used to commit mass murder. My point is that a gun owner, who by definition must be a responsible adult, should understand that certain guns should not be available to certain people. This opinion is not an excuse to begin taking away your guns, and is not in violation of the 2nd amendment.

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