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    Boxer Seeks to Ratify U.N. Treaty That May Erode U.S. Rights

    Boxer Seeks to Ratify U.N. Treaty That May Erode U.S. Rights - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

    Sen. Barbara Boxer is pushing the Obama administration to move forward with ratification of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child, a controversial treaty that has never gained much support in the U.S.

    By Joseph Abrams
    Wednesday, February 25, 2009


    "Sen. Barbara Boxer is urging the U.S. to ratify a United Nations measure meant to expand the rights of children, a move critics are calling a gross assault on parental rights that could rob the U.S. of sovereignty.

    The California Democrat is pushing the Obama administration to review the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child, a nearly 20-year-old international agreement that has been foundering on American shores since it was signed by the Clinton administration in 1995 but never ratified.

    Critics say the treaty, which creates "the right of the child to freedom of thought, conscience and religion" and outlaws the "arbitrary or unlawful interference with his or her privacy," intrudes on the family and strips parents of the power to raise their children without government interference.

    Nearly every country in the world is party to it -- only the U.S. and Somalia are not -- but the convention has gained little support in the U.S. and never been sent to the Senate for ratification.

    That could change soon."



    More nanny government from our beneficent overlords.
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    Re: Boxer Seeks to Ratify U.N. Treaty That May Erode U.S. Rights

    Another reason why I hate the UN.
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    Re: Boxer Seeks to Ratify U.N. Treaty That May Erode U.S. Rights

    The purpose of the treaty is to prevent children from being co-opted into cults, military militias (think Taliban), and the sex trade, even if their parents want them to do it. They have the right to say no and go to the authorities for help. If a country has ratified this treaty, then they will be obligated to help those children. It's a good idea because in a lot of countries, children must serve their parents no matter what, and sometimes parents put their children in bad situations for their self-gain.

    The intention of this treaty is not to prevent people from parenting their children according to their values, but to protect the safety and well being of a child from obvious dangers.

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    Re: Boxer Seeks to Ratify U.N. Treaty That May Erode U.S. Rights

    Does anyone else not really understand why this treaty is "controversial"?

    It's been in place in the UK for 20 years and I don't think I've ever heard of it!

    Parental rights groups are similarly stirred; they see in the U.N. convention a threat that the government will meddle with even the simplest freedoms to raise their children as they see fit.

    "Whether you ground your kids for smoking marijuana, whether you take them to church, whether you let them go to junior prom, all of those things . . . will be the government's decision," said Michael Farris, president of ParentalRights.org. "It will affect every parent who's told their children to do the dishes."


    Priceless, the UN is going to make it illegal for children to wash dishes! I thought I was reading the Onion for a second.
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    Re: Boxer Seeks to Ratify U.N. Treaty That May Erode U.S. Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    The purpose of the treaty is to prevent children from being co-opted into cults, military militias (think Taliban), and the sex trade, even if their parents want them to do it.
    We all know it is the right of any parent to throw their children into cults. Who ever heard of kids and cults not mixing?



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    Re: Boxer Seeks to Ratify U.N. Treaty That May Erode U.S. Rights

    Classic. The US does the talk but does not do the walk so to say. I remember the time when the US was on the same page as most Islamic nations on Women's rights, and refused to sign the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women. Their excuse? Because women in the US have this right as part of US law.. so freaking what! Does the US agree or disagree with the principles of eliminating all forms of discrimination against women or not?! I surely hope the US joins the free and democratic world in going against child abuse and discrimination against women and does not like it has done far too often, side with radical nations like the Vatican, Iran, Saudi Arabia and so on, purely based on hidden religious motives.
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    Re: Boxer Seeks to Ratify U.N. Treaty That May Erode U.S. Rights

    Here's the thing:

    Even if this treaty is the devil and could conceivably be interpreted in a way that would give kids the right to smoke crack at the dinner table or whatever...

    1) Why has no other country had a problem with it?, and
    2) What on earth makes anyone think we would interpret it as such?

    The US, like every country, has a long and illustrious history of ratifying a treaty and then including enough reservations in the implementing legislation to ensure that it doesn't do anything we don't want it to do.

    I wouldn't worry about it forcing anyone to do anything drastic.
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    Anytime we are along side Somalia as the only nation on earth that has not ratified a human rights treaty, then I think its safe to assume we are in the wrong.
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    Re: Boxer Seeks to Ratify U.N. Treaty That May Erode U.S. Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Another reason why I hate the UN.



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    Re: Boxer Seeks to Ratify U.N. Treaty That May Erode U.S. Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    The intention of this treaty is not to prevent people from parenting their children according to their values, but to protect the safety and well being of a child from obvious dangers.
    The intention of the treaty really doesn't matter a hoot. These kinds of laws and regulations should be done within the country's own laws itself. Not an outside entity such as the UN. What makes this even worse is that the provisions for enforcement are pretty damn weak as usual except for their ability to interfere in specific court cases. Its ripe for abuse. Just because nothing has happened yet doesn't make it ok.

    The UN can't get their crap together on treaties and policies already on their books. Why would I want to trust them with another "foot in the door" policy that would give up rights to them?
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