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    Senators Agree to Consider D.C. Voting Rights Bill

    I really have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, citizens deserve to vote, but on the other hand, merely passing a bill is going to be unconstitutional, and DC should only get the vote, along with representation, if it is done through a Constitutional amendment.

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    Re: Senators Agree to Consider D.C. Voting Rights Bill

    It seems blatantly unconstitutional, and I'm sure the Supreme Court will agree. But yes, they should be allowed to vote, just like anyone else.
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    Re: Senators Agree to Consider D.C. Voting Rights Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I really have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, citizens deserve to vote, but on the other hand, merely passing a bill is going to be unconstitutional, and DC should only get the vote, along with representation, if it is done through a Constitutional amendment.

    What say you?

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    Liberal Democrats back it, so my default starting point is in opposition, naturally.

    Why should I support this?

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    Re: Senators Agree to Consider D.C. Voting Rights Bill

    DC has voting rights, don't they? 3 EV's last I checked.

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    Re: Senators Agree to Consider D.C. Voting Rights Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It seems blatantly unconstitutional, and I'm sure the Supreme Court will agree. But yes, they should be allowed to vote, just like anyone else.
    What other US districts do you support giving Congressional representation to and why? I don't yet know what to think of this bill and would like to hear your side.

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    Re: Senators Agree to Consider D.C. Voting Rights Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I really have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, citizens deserve to vote, but on the other hand, merely passing a bill is going to be unconstitutional, and DC should only get the vote, along with representation, if it is done through a Constitutional amendment.

    What say you?

    Article is here.
    I just noticed how the poll question does not represent the article.

    " Should the new bill, granting DC citizens the right to vote, be passed?"

    The article spoke only about adding Sensate seats, which I shouldn't need to point out is not what "citizen's right to vote" means.

    Did I miss something? How is this not simply the expansion of government? Who, exactly, is today denied their personal constitutional right to vote? Names and links, please.

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    Re: Senators Agree to Consider D.C. Voting Rights Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    What other US districts do you support giving Congressional representation to and why? I don't yet know what to think of this bill and would like to hear your side.
    The District of Columbia is the only US district there is.

    I think they should have congressional representation because they're citizens of the United States just like anyone else. I don't see any reason they shouldn't have a say in our government just because they live in DC as opposed to Wyoming or Montana.

    And while we're at it, I think we should give them more sovereignty over their own affairs too. Their local government doesn't have much power, because everything they do has to be approved by Congress. IMO this is one of the reasons that DC has one of the highest crime rates and highest poverty rates of any large city.

    I think DC should, for the most part, be treated just like a state. Give the feds control over the National Mall and Embassy Row and maybe a few other specific places...but give the locals control over everything else and give them representation in Congress, just as we do for states.
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    Re: Senators Agree to Consider D.C. Voting Rights Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I just noticed how the poll question does not represent the article.

    " Should the new bill, granting DC citizens the right to vote, be passed?"

    The article spoke only about adding Sensate seats, which I shouldn't need to point out is not what "citizen's right to vote" means.

    Did I miss something? How is this not simply the expansion of government? Who, exactly, is today denied their personal constitutional right to vote? Names and links, please.
    Well they have the right to vote...but their vote doesn't count for much. Having a figurehead congressperson who can't actually vote doesn't really cut it IMO. There are more people living in DC than in Wyoming, which has a representative and two senators with full voting rights.
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    Re: Senators Agree to Consider D.C. Voting Rights Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I just noticed how the poll question does not represent the article.

    " Should the new bill, granting DC citizens the right to vote, be passed?"

    The article spoke only about adding Sensate seats, which I shouldn't need to point out is not what "citizen's right to vote" means.

    Did I miss something? How is this not simply the expansion of government? Who, exactly, is today denied their personal constitutional right to vote? Names and links, please.
    You missed nothing. I did. In my haste to post the article, I posted about voting rights, when it should have been about representation. My bad.
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    Re: Senators Agree to Consider D.C. Voting Rights Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Well they have the right to vote...but their vote doesn't count for much. Having a figurehead congressperson who can't actually vote doesn't really cut it IMO. There are more people living in DC than in Wyoming, which has a representative and two senators with full voting rights.
    Why not make DC a State, then?

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