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    Re: Man slays sister for honour

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Ya think?

    I have said it until I'm blue in the face. Middle Eastern traditions are Venus and western traditions is Mars. More than poles apart. They are world's apart.

    But, I'm a live and live kinda guy. And I'm for the "melting pot" philosophy that has made our wonderfully diverse nation what it is today. However, just as some metals should never be smelted together, neither should various cultures.

    Why can't everybody just stay on their own side of the world?
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    Re: Man slays sister for honour

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    I hope you do stick with it Sgt. Most Westerners either have no idea of the scope of the problem or they consider it a taboo subject because it exposes the seamy underside of Islam. In one notorius case in Israel, 6 Muslim females from one family were murdered (honor-killings) before other terrified female family members finally agreed to cooperate with the police.
    They do not expose the seamy underside of Islam. They expose the seamy underside of humanity.

    As has been clearly pointed out on prior occasions, honor killings are by no means the domain solely of Islam, nor was the practice invented by Muslims.

    Honor killings predate Islam and are performed by many who are not Muslim.

    How about we work on exposing the seamy underside of western ignorance?
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    Re: Man slays sister for honour

    There are just as many honour killings in India as there are in the worst Middle Eastern countries. Sgt, I ignore your cause mostly because you focus on Muslim honour killings only. This is a global issue that spans all the continents, it's not just a problem with radical Islam. It's an insane-o-womanizer issue.

    The status of women in the world is too important to be trivialized by focusing on this one cultural niche. In every country women are beaten to a pulp by their crazy boyfriends, husbands, fathers, uncles, etc. It's called abuse and it knows no borders.

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    Re: Man slays sister for honour

    Well, here in the good ol' US of A, we call domestic violence "domestic violence" and the perpatrators of such are ostracized and incarcerated. We do NOT look upon them as acts of honor. (UNLESS, you kick the sh** out of your sister's boyfriend because he beat her. That's honorable in my book! )

    But you are 100% right. Everywhere, all cultures, need to STOP hurting our women NOW! But I know, that's like asking the sun not to come up. Yeah, they can be a pain in the arse and push all the wrong buttons but VIOLENCE is NOT acceptable. Just leave before it comes to that.

    It most likely will never stop. That is why I have no personal objection to removing those prone to such violence from the gene pool altogether. That includes the women who get violent too. Maybe that's why nobody ever puts me in charge.

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    Re: Man slays sister for honour

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    As has been clearly pointed out on prior occasions, honor killings are by no means the domain solely of Islam, nor was the practice invented by Muslims.
    I have posted many times that honor-killings are not unique to Islam. Sgt. Rock has also made this abundantly clear. The phenomenon is a global one. Nevertheless, if someone wishes to focus primarily on one aspect of honor-killing, that's fine by me. Any publicity is better than no publicity.

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    Re: Man slays sister for honour

    My point is that honor killings are not Islamic in nature, period. They are a function of a pre-existing culture which predates Islam, so threads like these do not, as you previously asserted they do, expose the "seamy underbelly" if Islam.
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    Re: Man slays sister for honour

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    My point is that honor killings are not Islamic in nature, period. They are a function of a pre-existing culture which predates Islam, so threads like these do not, as you previously asserted they do, expose the "seamy underbelly" if Islam.
    Technically you are correct. I'll rephrase. Most female honor-killings occur in predominantly Muslim countries. Over 5000 women and girls are killed every year by family members in so-called 'honour killings' according to the UN. These crimes occur where cultures believe that a woman's unsanctioned sexual behaviour brings such shame on the family that any female accused or suspected must be murdered. Reasons for these murders can be as trivial as talking to a man, or as innocent as suffering rape.

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    Re: Man slays sister for honour

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    There are just as many honour killings in India as there are in the worst Middle Eastern countries. Sgt, I ignore your cause mostly because you focus on Muslim honour killings only.
    I'm confused here, could someone please help me with this cause I'm afraid my eyes may be playing tricks on me. Did the OP say this?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Over 5000 women and a few men are killed in honour killings each year. The majority of these are muslims, hindus, and sikhs.
    I could've swore he said that. He said that right? My eyes aren't playing tricks on me?

    Hindu...Hindu...where is Hindu usually practiced...Hindu. Oh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiki
    Hinduism is the predominant religion[1] of the Indian subcontinent
    That's right. India.

    And Sikhs. Sikhs, hmmm...Sikhs. What country was it that had the biggest population of them....hmm?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiki
    Regions with significant populations
    India......19,215,730
    United Kingdom......750,000
    Canada......278,400
    United States......100,000
    Malaysia......100,000
    Ah, that's right. India.

    Hm, yes...he obvious focus's soley on Muslims and completely ignores India.

    Yes, he may focus on Muslims primarily but even then, I'm pretty sure he's pointing out its not just isolated to them

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    Re: Man slays sister for honour

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Technically you are correct.
    I love that turn of phrase.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    I'll rephrase. Most female honor-killings occur in predominantly Muslim countries. Over 5000 women and girls are killed every year by family members in so-called 'honour killings' according to the UN. These crimes occur where cultures believe that a woman's unsanctioned sexual behaviour brings such shame on the family that any female accused or suspected must be murdered. Reasons for these murders can be as trivial as talking to a man, or as innocent as suffering rape.
    Could you perhaps provide numbers for the countries which are not predominantly Muslim, especially the countries in the Western hemisphere where this practice continues today?

    Any chance you might also have numbers comparing the number of honor killings perpetrated by Muslims versus those who are not?

    Without that kind of data, words like "most" don't really have any meaning.
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    Re: Man slays sister for honour

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Could you perhaps provide numbers for the countries which are not predominantly Muslim, especially the countries in the Western hemisphere where this practice continues today?
    Can you? And provide numbers which show westerners doing them.
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