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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I didn't want to turn this into a potential anti-gun thread by bringing that up, but yeah, it's pretty glaring, isn't it? If the kid could access the gun, then the dad was just out of touch to begin with. Sorry, had to say it.
    I don't see calling an irresponsible parent anti-gun, the child owning the gun, no problem, the father not teaching him safety and responsible gun usage and ownership = ****ty parent, Tucker nailed that one.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    True, but this kid had teh shotgun in his room. Perhaps I should have said "unfettered access".

    Making sure the weapons are in a safe is being a responsible parent. Allowing an 11-year-old unresticted access to a shotgun? ****ty parenting.

    What I mean by access is that in this case, it appears that there were no safeguards in place.
    The best safeguard we had was that I was taught from an early age that the guns stay in place until needed, they are always to be assumed loaded, and IF the gun is to be used it must be a valid reason, like hunting or self-defense.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    That, too, is situational.
    Fact is, if a kid wants to get a gun, YOUR gun, he can. "Access" is, therefore, relative.

    The way to prevent things like this is teaching kids how to properly deal with whatever problems they may have.
    And to properly teach them how to use and respect a firearm. Don't forget that.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    What else has changed the attitudes and violent actions of our young people more than ultraviolent videogames?
    bhkad, your videogame presentation is idiotic, simply because violent gamesl have been around for ages. Kids have played cops and robbers, cowboys and indians, and plenty of others, long before video games were invented. If you want to look at the real causes of this situation, you need to look at parental responsibility, the lack of consequences that children receive. society becoming used to violence, heck, even the lack/reduction of corporal punishment could be blamed. Video games? Ridiculous.

    But, as I always say when you present this silly argument, let us eliminate guns for 5 years and examine the effects and whether this reduces violence. See? I can make a nonsensical argument, too.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    The vast majority of people who play violent video games do not commit crimes like these. Bhkad's video game vendetta is, as usual, irrelevant and invalid. Also, plenty of children who have fathers who have pregnant girlfriends, do not kill them. I have worked with many, and with the type of kids I work with, one would think I would see it. I have not. This was a situational specific problem, probably stemming from some serious emotional issues that the kid had, created by a variety of issues, some of which, undoubtedly, may have been biological/psychological.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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