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PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dad’s Pregnant Girlfriend

The interesting thing to me is that he went to school after he shot her. You'd think a kid that was gonna shoot someone would then skip school too. Weird. He shot her and then left his little sister and went to class. It's also interesting that they were gonna charge him as an adult. An 11 year old is NOT an adult.

I wonder if he was on medication. Many of these young boys are medicated and many of the medications are proven to cause violent aggressive behavior.

Sad.

I guess those are possibilities. However, why would you assume that his behavior was based on medication and not just plain meanness or jealousy or whatever? The picture they show of this kid looks utterly evil to me. I'm glad he's being charged as an adult, and I hope he goes to jail. I believe Jeffrey Dahmer started killing animals when he was a young kid. He moved on to humans and ate them. I wonder if people would have thought it was wrong to charge him with killing animals because of his age.
 
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Or for that matter why is mom in bed sleeping while the kids are up getting ready for school?

Well, she was 8 months pregnant. I believe that sometimes women become exhausted when they are one month away from giving birth.
 
Or for that matter why is mom in bed sleeping while the kids are up getting ready for school?

Mom was 8 months pregnant .... and pregnancy breeds fatigue. I can understand why she was in bed.
 
I didn't want to turn this into a potential anti-gun thread by bringing that up, but yeah, it's pretty glaring, isn't it? If the kid could access the gun, then the dad was just out of touch to begin with. Sorry, had to say it.
I don't see calling an irresponsible parent anti-gun, the child owning the gun, no problem, the father not teaching him safety and responsible gun usage and ownership = ****ty parent, Tucker nailed that one.
 
True, but this kid had teh shotgun in his room. Perhaps I should have said "unfettered access".

Making sure the weapons are in a safe is being a responsible parent. Allowing an 11-year-old unresticted access to a shotgun? ****ty parenting.

What I mean by access is that in this case, it appears that there were no safeguards in place.
The best safeguard we had was that I was taught from an early age that the guns stay in place until needed, they are always to be assumed loaded, and IF the gun is to be used it must be a valid reason, like hunting or self-defense.
 
That, too, is situational.
Fact is, if a kid wants to get a gun, YOUR gun, he can. "Access" is, therefore, relative.

The way to prevent things like this is teaching kids how to properly deal with whatever problems they may have.

And to properly teach them how to use and respect a firearm. Don't forget that.
 
What else has changed the attitudes and violent actions of our young people more than ultraviolent videogames?

bhkad, your videogame presentation is idiotic, simply because violent gamesl have been around for ages. Kids have played cops and robbers, cowboys and indians, and plenty of others, long before video games were invented. If you want to look at the real causes of this situation, you need to look at parental responsibility, the lack of consequences that children receive. society becoming used to violence, heck, even the lack/reduction of corporal punishment could be blamed. Video games? Ridiculous.

But, as I always say when you present this silly argument, let us eliminate guns for 5 years and examine the effects and whether this reduces violence. See? I can make a nonsensical argument, too.
 
The vast majority of people who play violent video games do not commit crimes like these. Bhkad's video game vendetta is, as usual, irrelevant and invalid. Also, plenty of children who have fathers who have pregnant girlfriends, do not kill them. I have worked with many, and with the type of kids I work with, one would think I would see it. I have not. This was a situational specific problem, probably stemming from some serious emotional issues that the kid had, created by a variety of issues, some of which, undoubtedly, may have been biological/psychological.
 
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