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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I completely disagree with this. Children should not be allowed access to a gun without supervision, even if the gun is theirs.
    I agree completely.

    I don't even know how someone can say that he shouldn't be charged as an adult but it's okay for him to have unfettered, unsupervised access to a gun.

    Kids aren't little adults. They require supervision.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I completely disagree with this. Children should not be allowed access to a gun without supervision, even if the gun is theirs.
    I agree. Children are not held to the same standard of exercising rights as adults. I believe children should be required by law to be supervised while handling a firearm nor should not be able to access firearms with impunity.

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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    It would take 10 minutes.
    If you cannot leave your 11-yr old unsupervised for 10 minutes, there's something wrong with you or him or both of you.
    You need a better gun safe.

    or

    You need to lock up your cutting torch.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    As far as the boy is concerned, I refuse to believe that anyone is incapable of fully comprehending and appreciating the consequences of their actions by sole virtue of their age. I think determinations to this effect must be made on a case-to-case basis; a one-size fits all approach is not logical.

    The emotional and mental cognizance of any given person is not a direct consequence of their age; other factors must be taken into consideration.

    Having said that, I would assume that this boy was fully aware of the moral consequences of his actions. Almost all eleven year-olds are fully capable of making determinations between right and wrong. If they understand that throwing rocks through a car window or stealing candy from a gas station is wrong then it seems nonsensical to suggest their ability to discern right from wrong is inversely proportional to the magnitude of their crime.

    I knew full well even at the age of five that shooting a person in the back of the head would kill them and that it was wrong to hurt others. Mitigating factors notwithstanding, I'm certain this boy did as well.

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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Oh yay, another rant by Bhkad about violent video games. /yawn...

    Videogames are NOT the blame. Where in that article does it say anything about the kid playing video games? I am SICK ****ING SICK, of stupid people blaming video games, movies, literature, everything except themselves for these actions. You know what video games are? A scapegoat. I could go murder some kid on my campus, and than if i want to, could go to court and say, well... I did play world of warcraft... and I somehow thought that playing that game meant it was OK to go buy a sword and chop his head off... Yeah right.

    Bhkad, I have played many, many video games, violent, sports, educational.. you name it, i've played it. I have never done a criminal act, have no criminal record, have been in two fights in my life (i'm 22). I help people out when I see they are in need, and am majoring in criminal justice to protect people from violence/other crimes. Why am I not a murdering nutjob? Could it be because.. Wait for it... I was mature enough to understand the difference between fantasy and reality at a young age? Oh wait.. OR could it be.. my parents taught me hurting people was wrong? Treat others how you would like to be treated? etc etc etc. According to that psych. that link you gave means I should at least have racked up 100+ body count by age 22... I gotta get to work on that /sarcasm off.

    Now, if you are arguing that young children should NOT be playing M rated games (18+) Than I can agree with you, and once again blame that on bad parenting. All you are doing by blaming games is giving criminal scumbags an excuse for their violent actions when they go to court. Oh.. well I played this game.. and that's why I did it. I don't mean to be rude man, but you can't just use **** as a scapegoat. This isn't nazi germany.

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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    The interesting thing to me is that he went to school after he shot her. You'd think a kid that was gonna shoot someone would then skip school too. Weird. He shot her and then left his little sister and went to class. It's also interesting that they were gonna charge him as an adult. An 11 year old is NOT an adult.

    I wonder if he was on medication. Many of these young boys are medicated and many of the medications are proven to cause violent aggressive behavior.

    Sad.
    I guess those are possibilities. However, why would you assume that his behavior was based on medication and not just plain meanness or jealousy or whatever? The picture they show of this kid looks utterly evil to me. I'm glad he's being charged as an adult, and I hope he goes to jail. I believe Jeffrey Dahmer started killing animals when he was a young kid. He moved on to humans and ate them. I wonder if people would have thought it was wrong to charge him with killing animals because of his age.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Or for that matter why is mom in bed sleeping while the kids are up getting ready for school?
    Well, she was 8 months pregnant. I believe that sometimes women become exhausted when they are one month away from giving birth.

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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You need a better gun safe.
    I have a -great- gun safe.

    You need to lock up your cutting torch
    Maybe I need a dumber kid. S

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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I have a -great- gun safe.


    Maybe I need a dumber kid. S


    Okay, you need a shock collar.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Or for that matter why is mom in bed sleeping while the kids are up getting ready for school?
    Mom was 8 months pregnant .... and pregnancy breeds fatigue. I can understand why she was in bed.

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