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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Why is 11 years old too young? Did he not know what he was doing? I say bull****.

    1. He knew what a fire arm was.

    2. He knew what to use it for.

    There is clear intent. Let him be tried as an adult. It's Pennsylvania not Texas. The most he'll get is 15 to 25.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

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    We don't know that this cherub is a videogame player but with the alarming numbers of random acts of gun violence by younger teens and pre-teens in the past several years we must ask ourselves, "what has gotten into America's young people's heads?"



    Not to mention the occasional homicide.
    Are you SERIOUSLY trying to blame this on VIDEO GAMES!? While we're blaming this boy's psychosis on inanimate objects why don't we start with the gun? It's the gun's fault! Let's ban guns!

    I cannot believe you fail to see the utter irony of your position, not to mention the hypocrisy. You are a proponent of the second amendment who encounters illogical arguments which attribute gun violence to guns all the time, yet you turn right around and do the exact same thing to video games.

    This is why mainstream conservatism is losing its credibility. They lack ideological consistency and appear as nothing more than opportunists who piggy-back movements in order to derive personal benefits from them. VIDEO GAMES!?

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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why is 11 years old too young? Did he not know what he was doing? I say bull****.

    1. He knew what a fire arm was.

    2. He knew what to use it for.

    There is clear intent. Let him be tried as an adult. It's Pennsylvania not Texas. The most he'll get is 15 to 25.
    I don't agree with that at all. First of all, he's 11 years old and while he may know what a firearm is and what it is used for, I doubt he has the maturity or capacity for understanding ideas like the permanence of death. Hell, most people don't come to understand the finer points of human mortality until their first big health scare.

    I don't think an 11 year old has the ability to participate in his defense or to fully understand his actions. If he were 13 or 14, different story but here you have a kid.

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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I don't think an 11 year old has the ability to participate in his defense or to fully understand his actions. If he were 13 or 14, different story but here you have a kid.
    That's why -that- is the relevant standard.

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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I don't agree with that at all. First of all, he's 11 years old and while he may know what a firearm is and what it is used for, I doubt he has the maturity or capacity for understanding ideas like the permanence of death. Hell, most people don't come to understand the finer points of human mortality until their first big health scare.
    I disagree strongly. Thousands of people who claim not to the understand the consequences of their actions(such as the permanence of death) are tried as competent adults every year. They can plead insanity(don't know the legal terminology) but that doesn't always fly in court. It seems to me like this kid has everything needed to be tried as an adult. Clear intent knowledge of what he was doing. It's not like he started crying. This kid just put his gun away decided to go on about his day like nothing had happened. From what we know of this it seems to me like he knew exactly what he was doing.

    I don't think an 11 year old has the ability to participate in his defense or to fully understand his actions. If he were 13 or 14, different story but here you have a kid.
    At what point do kids know that it's not okay to put a gun to the back of somebody's head and pull the trigger?
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Damn the kids are ****ed up these days. I'm gonna blame text messaging.

    That calls for a five year ban on text messaging while we study the effects of texting while shooting.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I didn't want to turn this into a potential anti-gun thread by bringing that up, but yeah, it's pretty glaring, isn't it? If the kid could access the gun, then the dad was just out of touch to begin with. Sorry, had to say it.
    Says you and the rest of the anti-gun gestapo.

    Guns don't kill people --- PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.

    Stop blaming guns for the way people use them.

    Furthermore, if the child had the proper training and safety skills to use the weapon there isn't any reason why he shouldn't have it.

    You need to consider the area where this event occurred. This is a rural part of the country. It's real common for young people to own a firearm.

    This horrific crime is not sufficient cause for anti-gun liberals to try and amend the Brady bill.

    So please cease your attack on the 2nd ammendment.

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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Video games can really effect you. When I was about 7, I used to run around eating mushrooms and jumping on turtles and then kicking their shells.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    The interesting thing to me is that he went to school after he shot her. You'd think a kid that was gonna shoot someone would then skip school too. Weird. He shot her and then left his little sister and went to class. It's also interesting that they were gonna charge him as an adult. An 11 year old is NOT an adult.

    I wonder if he was on medication. Many of these young boys are medicated and many of the medications are proven to cause violent aggressive behavior.

    Sad.

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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why is 11 years old too young? Did he not know what he was doing? I say bull****.

    1. He knew what a fire arm was.

    2. He knew what to use it for.

    There is clear intent. Let him be tried as an adult. It's Pennsylvania not Texas. The most he'll get is 15 to 25.
    Yet more liberal blood lust.

    The boy is 11 years old. Trying him as an adult is unacceptable. He needs to stay in jail until he is 21 and then he needs a chance to rebuild his life.

    Moreover, you are not qualified to judge what is and is not "clear intent". You haven't talked to the boy, you don't know his mental condition, his living conditions, or his state of mind. You cannot make such an assessment without these items.

    Anything the child said to police without council present is inadmissable anyway. The police are going to have to get another slap upside the head if they talked the boy into confessing.

    Moreover, he's underage so the police erred when questioning him without a parent present. This too will be of use when his lawyer gets his "confession" tossed out.

    Finally, you shouldn't be so quick to toss a child to the wolves. He's 11 years old and he DOES NOT belong in an adult prison. That you think he does is just insane.

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