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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Not to side track such a healthy debate on bhkad's irrational hatred of video games (maybe the arcade fighters kicked his ass all the time as a kid and he's been bitter ever since. Tried to play Street Fighter and only lost quarters...that sort of thing). But they're talking about charging this kid as an adult. Do you agree? I'm torn on it. 11 is a young age, but the crime was pretty horrendous. Though the whole child law thing was in place because kids don't always comprehend what they are doing, so they had a separate court system to deal with them. Still, I'm not sure I'm comfortable charging kids as adults even for murder. What about the 9 year old that shot his dad and friend? Adult conviction?

    Damn the kids are ****ed up these days. I'm gonna blame text messaging.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    11 is too young to try as an adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Damn the kids are ****ed up these days. I'm gonna blame text messaging.
    LOL. I gotta say, I think it's pretty ****ed up that 9 and 10 year old kids have cell phones in the first place. Not to sound like the old guy who had to walk uphill both ways to school barefoot in a land that was always covered in snow, but I think I did pretty good without ever having a phone as a kid.

    Why the **** does a 9 year old need a phone? Who the **** are they calling?
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    The Pennsylvania law is anyone over 10 charged with murder or homicide is brought up as an adult. But I agree with you, 11 is too young to try as an adult.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The Pennsylvania law is anyone over 10 charged with murder or homicide is brought up as an adult. But I agree with you, 11 is too young to try as an adult.
    Way too young.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    What violent video games did Hitler play? What about Charles Manson, what violent video games did he play?

    If you are a good parent that builds a strong relationship with your children, then its not like your kid is going to play Call of Duty one morning then just up and then go on a killing rampage. In Canada and western Europe kids play the same games, yet their murder rates there are a fraction of what ours is.

    The problem we have in this country is that as a society we are more selfish and materialistic than ever, and as a result, we have a lot of ****y parents. Anymore, "enrichment" for many kids consists of soccer practice. Other than that, their parents don't do anything with them, they don't build the respect and friendship with their kids that previous generations used to build with their kids. Our son at the age of eight has been on several backpacking and canoe trips, been fishing God knows how many times, has been to art museums, museums of natural history, has traveled with us, has been exposed to no telling how many different cultures.... Our daughter in the year and a half we have had her has done more with us than many of her friends in Kindergarten have in their entire lives with their parents. Most of our son's friends went fishing for the first time last fall in cub scouts at one of the pack meetings, many of them have never been camping, been to museums, been exposed to different cultures, taken with their parents on trips, and so on. When did we forget in this country that your kids are the best friends you will ever have? Its the self absorption in our society that has lead to this.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Way too young.
    Obviously this kid is messed up in the head and really needs some help, I think that's where we should take this. A child can be helped a lot easier than an adult who has already committed a fair amount of crime and taken jail time. I'm not saying no punishment for the kid, but I'm saying he needs to be tried as a juvenile and placed into that system. The adult system is gonna have him for breakfast and you're probably just going to create a lifelong criminal. At least with the juvenile system there is a bit of a chance for redemption. We need to be reasonable about our punishments, yeah this is horrible and murder is a serious charge; but the kid is 11 and that's just way too young to throw them into the adult system. Unless, of course, they allow violent video games in juvenile detention...then it's all for not.

    To add to what SouthernDemocrat was saying, I think one thing we have seriously lost in this country is our reason. I think collectively, we have thrown that right out the window...I don't know why. But it's obvious from looking at the whole of our country; out of control government, lawsuits over stupid things for 10's of millions of dollars, kids committing horrible crime, court system going over the line, automatic sentencing, sex crimes (both on the committal and punishment side), drugs and alcohol, etc. We've lost our ever loving minds here. America has abandoned all reason and I think that's a major factor in our steady decline.
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    Re: PA 11-Year-Old Shoots His Dadís Pregnant Girlfriend

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    What violent video games did Hitler play? What about Charles Manson, what violent video games did he play?

    If you are a good parent that builds a strong relationship with your children, then its not like your kid is going to play Call of Duty one morning then just up and then go on a killing rampage. In Canada and western Europe kids play the same games, yet their murder rates there are a fraction of what ours is.

    The problem we have in this country is that as a society we are more selfish and materialistic than ever, and as a result, we have a lot of ****y parents. Anymore, "enrichment" for many kids consists of soccer practice. Other than that, their parents don't do anything with them, they don't build the respect and friendship with their kids that previous generations used to build with their kids. Our son at the age of eight has been on several backpacking and canoe trips, been fishing God knows how many times, has been to art museums, museums of natural history, has traveled with us, has been exposed to no telling how many different cultures.... Our daughter in the year and a half we have had her has done more with us than many of her friends in Kindergarten have in their entire lives with their parents. Most of our son's friends went fishing for the first time last fall in cub scouts at one of the pack meetings, many of them have never been camping, been to museums, been exposed to different cultures, taken with their parents on trips, and so on. When did we forget in this country that your kids are the best friends you will ever have? Its the self absorption in our society that has lead to this.
    Hitler probably played Wolfenstein 3D, but couldn't get past the Hitler level because he didn't want to kill himself...well, not yet anyway.

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