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    Re: UK agents 'colluded with torture in Pakistan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    3. GySgt, do you ever wake up at night with a funny taste in your mouth? It's called hate produced bile.
    No. My hate for the average Euro sentiment is quite tasteful. It allows me to see past the surface BS that Europe's been under for decades.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    We have people like that over here too. They're almost as entertaining as this thread. Are you trying to one-up PeteEU? Is this what this is about? Tsk, tsk, tsk. Americans... "you people" are funny... always wanting to be number one at everything.
    Oh....as an American my place is to bend over for the European right? His spill of "moral superiority" is supposed to be welcomed and groveled over? Typical. One up? With an abundance of Euro BS to pull from just in the twentieth century, "one up" is easy. You people are a joke. You whine about a few cases and attempt to equate that to what you've done and continue to do.

    And yes...I do despise the European attitude displayed by PeteEU, Maximus Zebra, and yourself. I do choose to deny you your celebrated self-righteous parties that merely allow you to gloss over the overwhelming guilt and depravity with European stamps upon them.
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    Re: UK agents 'colluded with torture in Pakistan'

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    No.



    Oh....as an American my place is to bend over for the European right? His spill of "moral superiority" is supposed to be welcomed and groveled over? Typical. One up? With an abundance of Euro BS to pull from just in the twentieth century, "one up" is easy. You people are a joke. You whine about a few cases and attempt to equate that to what you've done and continue to do.

    And yes...I do despise the European attitude displayed by PeteEU, Maximus Zebra, and yourself. I do choose to deny you your celebrated self-righteous parties that merely allow you to gloss over the overwhelming guilt and depravity with European stamps upon them.


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    Re: UK agents 'colluded with torture in Pakistan'

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    I rest my case.
    Which was?

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    Re: UK agents 'colluded with torture in Pakistan'

    If any British involvement in torture can be proved then criminal charges should be filed. It harms the British image and violates the human rights we are supposed to stand for.

    However, it is very important for British national security to cooperate with Pakistani intelligence. The 7/7 bombings were planned in Pakistan and most British Islamic extremists are likely of Pakistani origin. Refusing any cooperation with the ISI because of the practices every knows they use isn't really an option. I guess the whole thing it is a pretty difficult problem.
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    Re: UK agents 'colluded with torture in Pakistan'

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Which was?
    That you're trying to out-do PeteEU in the "anti-whoever is on the other side of the ocean" department.

    I like how you ignored my calling him on trying to make excuses for what Europe does.

    And I also like how you lump me in with people I have nothing in common with other than living on the same continent.

    When have I ever made an anti-American statement on this forum, other than in jest, GySgt? When and in which thread?

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    Re: UK agents 'colluded with torture in Pakistan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    That you're trying to out-do PeteEU in the "anti-whoever is on the other side of the ocean" department.

    I'm not trying to do anything. His kind makes their posts, and I retort in defense of my country and force them to deny acknowledgment of their own country men's overwhelming bad behavior. I start no threads about Europe. They start plenty about America. I usually do not entertain myself on threads about Europe for Europeans unless "America" is a part of that thread title. For example....

    Have I started any threads about the French behavior in Algeria? Could I? Yet, Europeans are fond of starting threads about a few cases of torture over the last few years as they preach about "moral superiority." I simply come along and defend. But I get to be the source of your sermon?

    Notice that you expressly adressed me and spared PeteEU, the individual that was attacking and claiming "moral superiority?" Save it.
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    Re: UK agents 'colluded with torture in Pakistan'

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    I'm not trying to do anything. His kind makes their posts, and I retort in defense of my country and force them to deny acknowledgment of their own country men's overwhelming bad behavior. I start no threads about Europe. They start plenty about America. I usually do not entertain myself on threads about Europe for Europeans unless "America" is a part of that thread title. For example....

    Have I started any threads about the French behavior in Algeria? Could I? Yet, Europeans are fond of starting threads about a few cases of torture over the last few years as they preach about "moral superiority." I simply come along and defend. But I get to be the source of your sermon?
    I wasn't a sermon. I happen to think you're an incredibly smart man and I usually like reading your take on things, especially when you're responding to either Zeebra or Pete. However, lately, it's colored with so much visceral anti-European sentiment, it's hard to tell the difference between you and them anymore.

    Notice that you expressly adressed me and spared PeteEU, the individual that was attacking and claiming "moral superiority?" Save it.
    Fair enough. Feel free to edit my post and add his name somewhere you think it would fit. I thought it was obvious who I was talking about.

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    Re: UK agents 'colluded with torture in Pakistan'

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    However, lately, it's colored with so much visceral anti-European sentiment, it's hard to tell the difference between you and them anymore.
    Maybe because now, instead of just defending America from those who gained and prospered under America's umbrella, I get to defend America as the source for all their economic problems too. It never ends.

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    Re: UK agents 'colluded with torture in Pakistan'

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Maybe because now, instead of just defending America from those who gained and prospered under America's umbrella, I get to defend America as the source for all their economic problems too. It never ends.
    Could you maybe expand on this some, for those of us who were confused by the bolded portion?
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: UK agents 'colluded with torture in Pakistan'

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Could you maybe expand on this some, for those of us who were confused by the bolded portion?
    I think he means that European nations could afford to look after themselves and their citizens by developing a broad (and expensive) range of social programs, while considerably reducing their military spending, seeing as they knew they could count on the US to come and help them if they were ever under attack. This is something I actually agree with.
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