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    Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights

    Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights
    Amnesty International and a pro-Tibet group voiced shock Friday after US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton vowed not to let human rights concerns hinder cooperation with China.

    T. Kumar of Amnesty International USA said the global rights lobby was "shocked and extremely disappointed" by Clinton's remarks.

    "The United States is one of the only countries that can meaningfully stand up to China on human rights issues," he said.

    "But by commenting that human rights will not interfere with other priorities, Secretary Clinton damages future US initiatives to protect those rights in China," he said.

    Students for a Free Tibet said Clinton's remarks sent the wrong signal to China at a sensitive time.

    "The US government cannot afford to let Beijing set the agenda," said Tenzin Dorjee, deputy director of the New York-based advocacy group.
    After all the cash they got from the Chinese, after all the infiltration by them during The Clintons Reign of Error, what is she supposed to do?

    My bet is she was lining up cash for 2012.
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    Re: Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights
    After all the cash they got from the Chinese, after all the infiltration by them during The Clintons Reign of Error, what is she supposed to do?

    My bet is she was lining up cash for 2012.
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    He stance seem reasonable. China is the largest and probably the richest nation on earth now. We need to keep our relations stable.

    The Bush administration did so many human right abuses that we have no right to setting expectation. Hope fully Obama will end the trend toward civil rights abuses in the USA.

    Because of Bush we now looked on as the great killer nation.

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    Re: Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights

    The US preaching Human rights?
    Obama evidently agrees with Bush Policy with regard to Prisoner treatment.
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    Re: Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights

    One President in
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    One President in
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    Notice how "One President" never changed.
    Let's try this again:

    President Ronald Reagan In
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    President Bush Sr. In
    President Ronald Reagan Out
    President William Clinton In
    President Bush Sr. Out
    President Bush Jr. In
    President William Clinton Out
    President Barrack Obama in
    President Bush Jr. Out

    Notice what didn't change this time?
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    Re: Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights
    After all the cash they got from the Chinese, after all the infiltration by them during The Clintons Reign of Error, what is she supposed to do?

    My bet is she was lining up cash for 2012.
    The Idiot's Guide to Chinagate
    You shouldn't be surprised.

    International governments very rarely give a crap about human rights in regards to other countries unless it makes a good cover to go to war.
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    Re: Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonslayer View Post
    He stance seem reasonable. China is the largest and probably the richest nation on earth now. We need to keep our relations stable.
    Oh of course! Yet you complain about our relations with Saudi Arabia even though we need those "relations stable." You concern yourself with criticizing our deeds with dictators during the Cold War too. Didn;t they maintain "stability" for us too? But, some how, a Democrat walking this same path, twenty years after the Berlin Wall came down, gets your applause? If this was under Bush, you would be whining about it. I've accused you of partisan slavery in the past. Here is proof. I like Obama. Because he is a smart guy, he is destined to dissapoint the Obama-maniacs who were easily fooled into fantasy and impractical vision as they raced to the voting booths. But in the end there is one truth.....

    1) Republican slaves will criticize what they used to support.

    2) Democrat slaves will support what they used to criticize.



    What I find so ironically curious is how the "NeoCon" has been blasted and blasted for years. But it is the NeoCon that used to be of Democrat base turned Republican that has proved that their beliefs is not grounded in the "tribe" of American politics. It is the NeoCon that has been consistent in his demand for global rights and democracy. It is the NeoCon that has held the consistent belief that oppression in the world needs to be an American focus.

    The hypocrits are going to be easily exposed in the next couple years.

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    Re: Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
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    There's a lesson here. Perhaps people like me are closer to our reality than the ignorant critic? Maybe it's about time the little people started learning about the world they live in instead of assuming they know it all with the most minimal of knowledge. Consistency between Bush and Obama must mean that there is more to the game than the simple "black and white" of the protestor's self righteous BS.

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    Re: Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonslayer View Post
    He stance seem reasonable. China is the largest and probably the richest nation on earth now. We need to keep our relations stable.

    The Bush administration did so many human right abuses that we have no right to setting expectation. Hope fully Obama will end the trend toward civil rights abuses in the USA.

    Because of Bush we now looked on as the great killer nation.


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    Re: Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post


    Have you ever BEEN to China? Richest nation on earth?
    How would you equate the economies of China and Taiwan?

    I'm seriously curious. It seems more like Taiwan has a technical edge over China.

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    Re: Activists 'shocked' at Clinton stance on China rights

    China owns the most U.S. currency shares, and the U.S. is China's biggest customer. They sink or swim together. Everyone is aware of the human rights issues, but nothing can be done right now. I think the human rights problems would have to involve a third party that doesn't have such important relations with China. Then again... that third party would probably carry no weight, given that.

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