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    Re: Senator to Force Vote on Bill Banning Fairness Doctrine

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    Show me where as Obama promised this bill was available to you and me 5 days before Obama signed it as Obama promised.
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    To reduce bills rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them, Obama "will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days."
    I don't have to. You have misrepresented what Obama actually said to fit your agenda.

    When the law's intent is to violate the very tenent of the 1st amendment. Getting the anti-constitutionalists on record is a value added law.
    Irrelevant. You can't ban people from bringing up laws in a democracy even if these laws are undemocratic because banning them from doing that would in and of itself be undemocratic.

    What is your position of the FD?
    Oppose it. Next irrelevant question?
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    Re: Senator to Force Vote on Bill Banning Fairness Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It is not unconstitutional since the airwaves are legally considered PUBLIC PROPERTY.
    If it's public property, why don't you set up a transmitter and broadcast your own show. It's public right? Like a park, anyone can use it.

    It's public in the sense that government claimed it, but companies pay for a frequency and power; that becomes theirs. You can't just use whatever frequency you want at whatever time you want because you'll be infringing upon the property of other individuals whom through contract purchased the rights to use that bit of the airwaves. It's no longer public property at that point.

    Which is also why I say the FCC should exist solely to enforce piracy issues and that's about it. No censorship.
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    Re: Senator to Force Vote on Bill Banning Fairness Doctrine

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    I don't have to. You have misrepresented what Obama actually said to fit your agenda.

    And You have prevaricated or are misinformed as to the timeline.


    Obama took off for the weekend before signing the bill to chicago for the weekend. If it was an "emergency bill", why would he leave?


    You have any evidence this was an "emergency bill"?







    Irrelevant. You can't ban people from bringing up laws in a democracy even if these laws are undemocratic because banning them from doing that would in and of itself be undemocratic.
    undemocratic? I am unfamiliar with how this is rellevant or true.

    Please show me in the constitution where your contention applies.


    Oppose it. Next irrelevant question?


    Yet here we are.
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    Re: Senator to Force Vote on Bill Banning Fairness Doctrine

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    Which is also why I say the FCC should exist solely to enforce piracy issues and that's about it. No censorship.
    Censorship occurs when the corporation shuts out opposing views.

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    Re: Senator to Force Vote on Bill Banning Fairness Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It is not unconstitutional since the airwaves are legally considered PUBLIC PROPERTY.

    And no I do not support the FD. It is nothing more than the little dutch boy putting his finger in the dyke the is about break.



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    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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    Re: Senator to Force Vote on Bill Banning Fairness Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Censorship occurs when the corporation shuts out opposing views.



    Nonsense. Governments censor.
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    Re: Senator to Force Vote on Bill Banning Fairness Doctrine

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    Amendment I


    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    Freedom of speech is violated is violated when one side or the other left or right is shut out.

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    Re: Senator to Force Vote on Bill Banning Fairness Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Censorship occurs when the corporation shuts out opposing views.
    Corporations are free to do what they want with their own company. I think we should go back to only allowing a person to own one media outlet (thanks a lot Clinton) so that all the media isn't owned by Ted Turner and f'n Disney. But other than that, a company should be free to broadcast whatever they want.
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    Re: Senator to Force Vote on Bill Banning Fairness Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Freedom of speech is violated is violated when one side or the other left or right is shut out.


    No. It is violated when the government dictates to private people and companies the speech it can have.
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    Re: Senator to Force Vote on Bill Banning Fairness Doctrine

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    And You have prevaricated or are misinformed as to the timeline.

    Obama took off for the weekend before signing the bill to chicago for the weekend. If it was an "emergency bill", why would he leave?
    Because bills are not signed on the weekend. Never have been. Congress/Government has the SAME workweek as everyone else.

    You have any evidence this was an "emergency bill"?
    It's not called an ECONOMIC CRISIS because 10 people went broke.

    undemocratic? I am unfamiliar with how this is rellevant or true.
    Banning people from bringing up a law is undemocratic.

    Please show me in the constitution where your contention applies.
    1st amendment :

    First Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The First Amendment to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that expressly prohibits the United States Congress from making laws "respecting an establishment of religion" or that prohibit the free exercise of religion, laws that infringe the freedom of speech, infringe the freedom of the press, limit the right to peaceably assemble, or limit the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
    Bringing up a law supporting the Fairness Doctrine is part of freedom of speech. Congress doesn't have to pass it. But it certainly can't ban the act.

    Yet here we are.
    Ummm...so I guess there was no point to the question.
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