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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The US has proven it's ability to use nuclear weapons responsibly.
    How does dropping 2 atomic weapons where 270,000 people were killed (including innocent civilians) considered responsible?

    I won't go into the debate of whether it was necessary or not, but I wouldn't use the word "responsibly" to describe it.

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No sane person can see any reason to trust them.
    You really should post that to someone who made such an argument.

    Think we should nuke Russia tonight?
    Where did you get that notion?

    The terrorists don't have nuclear weapons.
    Actually we don't know that.

    Yeahl, right. If the terrorists had a functioning bomb in their mitts, they would have blown up London, Singapore, Washington, Los Angeles, Seattle, New Orleans, Miami, or Jerusalem long before now. I mean, they do it to prove their dicks are bigger, which, I hear, really impresses the 72 virgin goats they get up there in Paradise, and who can have a dick bigger than the guy who rides the bomb to heaven, just like Slim Pickens?
    So you're just as a hyperpartisan as others here?

    Btw, you haven't addressed my post.

    Because Bush is an idiot.

    Go ahead, refute that one.
    Why would I? I agree. Bush is an idiot.
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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    How does dropping 2 atomic weapons where 270,000 people were killed (including innocent civilians) considered responsible?
    It saved the lives of at least one American serviceman.

    That's pretty responsible of the President, don't you agree?

    You simply MUST agree that in time of war the President is under no obligation to protect the lives of the enemy at a cost to our own people, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I won't go into the debate of whether it was necessary or not, but I wouldn't use the word "responsibly" to describe it.
    I like using words properly.

    Sorry you don't feel the same way.

    How about if you considered fact that all projections regarding the invasion of the Japanese home islands was going to cost over five million casualties on both sides (i mean total)? Does your awestruck mind suddenly see the light and realize that the use of the bomb was the best option?

    Probably not. Most people who freak out over what we did to Hiroshima aren't capable of being objective about it. Never mind that we killed more jap civillians with incendiaries than with nukes....certainly people just can't figure out that dead is dead, they get all tangled up in the how, as if dying in a firestorm caused by a nuclear flashpoint is different than dying in a napalm storm.

    What I want to see is an Iran that can't build a nuclear bomb.

    Unlike you people, I don't want those weapons in the hands of terrorists or crazy nations.
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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You simply MUST agree that in time of war the President is under no obligation to protect the lives of the enemy at a cost to our own people, right?
    Using that logic, AL-Qaeda is justified to kill civilians as long as it helps their cause and saves the lives of their people.

    Sorry, but that simply is not the case.

    If our now Ex-President Bush decided to nuke the Middle East to save the lives of the service members that have died, that still would be wrong.

    It seems you are the kind of person that doesn't mind civilians killed as long as it is your side doing it, but cries foul when the other side does it.

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Using that logic, AL-Qaeda is justified to kill civilians as long as it helps their cause and saves the lives of their people.
    Intersting.

    Which nation is al Qaeda working for?

    Oh. No one's claiming them.

    When they get a nation, they can stop being considered mere fanatic murders...and we can bomb their nation to sometime before the stone age.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If our now Ex-President Bush decided to nuke the Middle East to save the lives of the service members that have died, that still would be wrong.
    Even I don't think Bush was stupid enough to think he could save the lives of men who've already died. Why would you think this?

    IMO Mecca should have died a flaming thermonuclear death on the afternoon of 9-11-2001, and the ashes scattered with more nukes to ensure that the "holy city" was evenly distributed all over the word.

    I'm easy. Their sneak attack kills thousands of US citizens, our response kills millions. It's what happens when the rats bite the lion.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It seems you are the kind of person that doesn't mind civilians killed as long as it is your side doing it, but decries when the other side does it.
    Nah, it's a matter of justice.

    Perhaps you noticed that Japan didn't issue a declaration of war in 1941?

    But we magnamanimously gave them multiple opportunities to surrender, all of which they refused.

    How much warning did the muslims give the US when they stole some airplanes and used them as weapons?

    Oh, that's right.

    None.

    (Here's the expectant wait for someone to proclaim BUSH KNEW BUSH KNEW AND DID NOTHING ABOUT IT. Yawn. An argument as empty as the head that will post it. Rather than me responding, do something useful, state exactly what you FEEL Bush should have done and what you FEEL the total cost to the nation would have been if your plan was implemented.)

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    How much warning did the muslims give the US when they stole some airplanes and used them as weapons?
    I do believe they said get out of the Middle East did they not? And no I don't agree with that, but your logic condones such an action by Al-Qaeda.

    As for the Bush knew thing, he knew that it was a possibilty of terrorists using planes, that should have at least warranted elevated levels at airports should it not?

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I do believe they said get out of the Middle East did they not?
    And their national embassy contacted our government in what fashion?

    Oh, they didn't. Al qaeda was acting as the armed forces of Afghanistan, and Afghanland sent absolutely no warning whatsoever that they were declaring war on us.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    As for the Bush knew thing, he knew that it was a possibilty of terrorists using planes, that should have at least warranted elevated levels at airports should it not?
    As predicted, nothing useful comes out of the "BUSH KNEW IN ADVANCE" crowd.

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    And their national embassy contacted our government in what fashion?
    It's called the news. If the President can't watch the news, then there are more problems at hand.

    Any idiot could see it was a threat. The problem is the U.S. underestimated them. BIG MISTAKE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    As predicted, nothing useful comes out of the "BUSH KNEW IN ADVANCE" crowd.
    Bush DID know that there was a legitimate threat. He may not have known which airport, but it did warrant elevated levels. Again, the fact Clinton and Bush underestimated the enemy is the problem, but then you are one of those that blame Clinton for everything and give Bush a free pass right?

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I do believe they said get out of the Middle East did they not? And no I don't agree with that, but your logic condones such an action by Al-Qaeda.

    As for the Bush knew thing, he knew that it was a possibilty of terrorists using planes, that should have at least warranted elevated levels at airports should it not?
    Your attempts to ignore the vast differences between stateless militias and internationally recognized uniformed militarys in the matter of waging war is disturbing.
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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Your attempts to ignore the vast differences between stateless militias and internationally recognized uniformed militarys in the matter of waging war is disturbing.
    The only thing disturbing is the fact you canont read what was said earlier. The comment said earlier was that civilian deaths is ok as long as if warning (as obscure as it can be) is ok as long as it saves lives on YOUR side. This comment was not made by me.

    Way to jump in and put your foot in your mouth. Scourge yourself to another thread or pay attention.

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