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    Re: Iran holds enough uranium for bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There are those here that will -never- comdemn Iran for building a bomb.

    These people fall into two groups:
    Those that believe the US is the cause of most problems in the world;
    Those that look forward to the destruction of Israel.

    There may be some overlap between the two.
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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Do you think they could make a pre-emptive raid on Iran?
    I think they've already done something similar around 20 years ago, and it looks like their new government will be quite right wing, but...do you think they could do it again?
    I not only believe they can, but they will. It won't be easy, but unless Obama orders US Forces to attack the Israelis to defend Iran... they'll do it. they won't risk having a nuclear showdown with Iran. And if it goes to that point... they won't hit Iran with conventional weapons, it will be with nuclear weapons.

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    FT.com / Middle East / Politics & Society - Iran holds enough uranium for bomb

    Yes that's right folks. The Israelis aren't gonna sit around and wait for the Obama folks to save them. How long till Israel hits Iran?

    I'm betting May, early June at the latest. They won't wait, and shouldn't wait. Diplomacy has failed.
    Was there even an indication that Israel was going to "sit around"? Even the left-leaning Livni is hawkish when it comes to Iran. To me it appears that whenever a right-winger like Netanyahu speaks moderately he talks about Iran.
    Diplomacy has to take place, and America has to be the middle-ground.
    However speculation that Iran will use a nuclear weapon to destroy Israel is completely insane!
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    Re: Iran holds enough uranium for bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Hey on another thread I was told bombs can't be made from low-grade uranium, so no big deal. I guess we're safe.
    I am not too certain, nor keen on the intricacies of nuclear engineering however:

    Quote Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_uranium#Low-enriched_uranium_.28LEU.29
    Low-enriched uranium' (LEU) has a lower than 20% concentration of 235U. For use in commercial light water reactors (LWR), the most prevalent power reactors in the world, uranium is enriched to 3 to 5% 235U. Fresh LEU used in research reactors is usually enriched 12% to 19.75% U-235, the latter concentration being used to replace HEU fuels when converting to LEU.
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    Highly enriched uranium (HEU) has a greater than 20% concentration of 235U or 233U.

    The fissile uranium in nuclear weapons usually contains 85% or more of 235U known as weapon(s)-grade, though for a crude, inefficient weapon 20% is sufficient (called weapon(s)-usable); some argue that even less is sufficient, but then the critical mass required rapidly increases. However, judicious use of implosion and neutron reflectors can enable construction of a weapon from a quantity of uranium below the usual critical mass for its level of enrichment, though this would likely only be possible in a country which already had extensive experience in developing nuclear weapons. The presence of too much of the 238U isotope inhibits the runaway nuclear chain reaction that is responsible for the weapon's power. The critical mass for 85% highly enriched uranium is about 50 kilograms (110 lb), which at normal density would be a sphere about 17 centimetres (6.7 in) in diameter.
    Personally I do not understand how any nuclear weaponry could be "insufficient".
    However, I don't think the argument lies whether or not Iran could build a bomb, but within whether or not Iran would use it. Personally, I think one is insane to promote the idea that Iran would use a nuclear weapon.
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    Re: Iran holds enough uranium for bomb

    Have fun concerning yourself with matters that are out of your hands. Let's hope Iran is smarter than we give them credit for.
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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Given how the U.S. deals with nuclear (and terrorist supporting countries) like Pakistan, it is no wonder why every ME country wants nukes.

    It is most likely Osama Bin Ladin is in Pakistan, why doesn't the U.S. do something about it? Oh yeah, they have gone nuclear.

    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to make that connection and why every country wants to go nuclear.

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I not only believe they can, but they will. It won't be easy, but unless Obama orders US Forces to attack the Israelis to defend Iran... they'll do it. they won't risk having a nuclear showdown with Iran. And if it goes to that point... they won't hit Iran with conventional weapons, it will be with nuclear weapons.
    and why doesn't Israel attack Pakistan? They are islamists too!

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    and why doesn't Israel attack Pakistan? They are islamists too!
    Probably because Pakistan isn't A: spouting off they'll destroy Israel, B: can't really hit Israel...

    I dunno, that's two good reasons, but I guess that's too deep for you.

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    From the other thread on this:
    Yeah, Commy told me not to worry, the Iranians weren't going to build any nukes because they don't have the stuff.
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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Probably because Pakistan isn't A: spouting off they'll destroy Israel, B: can't really hit Israel...

    I dunno, that's two good reasons, but I guess that's too deep for you.
    Nope they just have Al-Qaeda operating in their country. But I guess that isn't a concern of yours is it since Pakistan is a nuclear country.

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