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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Hiroshima was warned. Their country started a war with the US three and a half years earlier and that war was still in progress.

    Nagasaki was warned. Hell, there were japs in Nagasaki who'd seen the little sun glowing over Hiroshima and lived to tell abou it...for a little while.

    Since it's indisputable that those two attacks saved millions of lives, what's your problem?

    Atomic Bomb Warning Leaflets
    Hiroshima: Historians' Letter to the Smithsonian
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    The Myths of Hiroshima

    Here is a summary the Interim Committee reported to Truman:
    # Interim Committee Formulates Policy
    April through June 1945
    A committee of scientific, corporate, military and government leaders was formed by Secretary of War Stimson to formulate policy on "the whole field of atomic energy, in its political, military and scientific aspects." The committee's major function was to determine if the bomb should be used with or without warning. On June 1, 1945, the Interim Committee submitted its report to President Truman after agreeing unanimously:

    * The bomb should be used against Japan as soon as possible.
    * It should be used against a military target.
    * It should be used without prior warning.
    Leaflets were dropped on other cities after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed.

    And 'millions of lives saved' is a gross overstatement.

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It is funny how the world is. Iran is BADDDD for doing what it is doing, where as Brazil, who is doing exactly the same thing, who is an ally of Hugo Chavez, is almost not mentioned... wonder why.
    NEWSFLASH!!!!

    Nobody likes Hugo Chavez either. He is an Iran ally.

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    And 'millions of lives saved' is a gross overstatement.

    I never realized that "gross overstatement" was a euphemism for "damn straight they were".

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    That doesn't mean we are exempt. No matter how much you want us to be.
    Actually, no. We are only bound by it if the non-signatory abides by its terms.

    Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations. They shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof.
    Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War


    Whether or not we SHOULD act a certain way is a different question. But we are not REQUIRED to by the Conventions.
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    Re: Iran holds enough uranium for bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    ROFLROFLLOLZZZ Israel has thousands of nukes ready to be assembled in the basement. You think one Iranian nuke is going to challenge the Israeli deterrent?

    Iran's one nuke will be shot down and then it will become a crater in the Earth before any of Iran's enemies are at risk.

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There are those here that will -never- comdemn Iran for building a bomb.

    These people fall into two groups:
    Those that believe the US is the cause of most problems in the world;
    Those that look forward to the destruction of Israel.

    There may be some overlap between the two.
    This is one thing I can't agree with you on.

    There is another group of people who believe it's not our business what another sovereign nation wants to do with it's money / time. And it doesn't affect us until the decide to attack one of our allies or do something stupid.

    Kinda like here in the US where I don't care what you do, as long as you don't inhibit / prevent my rights / affect me.
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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    This is one thing I can't agree with you on.

    There is another group of people who believe it's not our business what another sovereign nation wants to do with it's money / time. And it doesn't affect us until the decide to attack one of our allies or do something stupid.

    Kinda like here in the US where I don't care what you do, as long as you don't inhibit / prevent my rights / affect me.
    In my opinion, it can work a little differently bro.

    Imagine there is no law to speak of.

    Your neighbor Fred has been talking big, making threats about how he's going to wipe out you and your entire family.

    Another neighbor comes by and warns you that Fred says he's making a bomb to blow up your house and everyone in it, and one dark night soon he's going to use it. Another neighbor tells you that he saw Fred buying dynamite. You saw Fred on his porch yesterday fiddling with some kind of home-made electronic gadget that might have been a timer.

    Do you wait until your house and family goes BOOM?

    Iran has been refining Uranium in a manner that could be used to fuel one or more bombs. Iran has been testing missles. Achmadinijhad has been telling everyone who will listen that Iran will destroy Israel soon.

    See my point?

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    In my opinion, it can work a little differently bro.

    Imagine there is no law to speak of.

    Your neighbor Fred has been talking big, making threats about how he's going to wipe out you and your entire family.

    Another neighbor comes by and warns you that Fred says he's making a bomb to blow up your house and everyone in it, and one dark night soon he's going to use it. Another neighbor tells you that he saw Fred buying dynamite. You saw Fred on his porch yesterday fiddling with some kind of home-made electronic gadget that might have been a timer.

    Do you wait until your house and family goes BOOM?

    Iran has been refining Uranium in a manner that could be used to fuel one or more bombs. Iran has been testing missles. Achmadinijhad has been telling everyone who will listen that Iran will destroy Israel soon.

    See my point?

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    So your solution is to muster as much weapons and friends as possible and obliterate Fred's house?

    You'd probably try to talk and reason with friend, find out more about what he's doing and if he would have any reason to make a bomb like... to scare thieves away. If that doesn't work, then call the police. If their being assholes THEN you call your buddies and get your 12-gauge and pipe bombs.
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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    So your solution is to muster as much weapons and friends as possible and obliterate Fred's house?

    You'd probably try to talk and reason with friend, find out more about what he's doing and if he would have any reason to make a bomb like... to scare thieves away. If that doesn't work, then call the police. If their being assholes THEN you call your buddies and get your 12-gauge and pipe bombs.
    Well, Fred's not being reasonable, and the police don't exist.....so in the personal realm the proper next step would be the negotiating team of Smith & Wesson.

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    Re: Iran passes redline, has enough U235 for Bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    So your solution is to muster as much weapons and friends as possible and obliterate Fred's house?

    You'd probably try to talk and reason with friend, find out more about what he's doing and if he would have any reason to make a bomb like... to scare thieves away. If that doesn't work, then call the police. If their being assholes THEN you call your buddies and get your 12-gauge and pipe bombs.

    What I would likely do, would likely be sneaky, underhanded, unexpected, carefully planned, precisely executed, and leave no evidence.

    Remember, we're assuming there is no law to speak of.

    In International terms, between hostile nations, there might as well be no international law except that which an individual country or coalition of allies can impose by force. Most of the "international community" is long on talk and very very short on action.

    They'll write you a great epitaph after your neighbor wipes you out though. They'll go on at length about how great you and the missus and kids were, and what a shame it is you're gone...but they won't do anything to Fred except lay a token "embargo" on him, and they won't admit half the reason you're gone is that they refused to take action and inhibited you from doing so.

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