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OKC officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle

Southern Man said:
It may or may not, but we'll never know in the land of the closed-minded and double-standard. :mrgreen:
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Ah, so now I'm closed-minded because I don't by your baseless assertions? :roll:
 
Lerxst said:
I never said it wasn't relevant. I asked how his question was relevant. Prove this was a case of racial profiling before you run out into traffic like that.
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Hey, don't tell me when and when not to run out into traffic. :mrgreen:
 
Southern Man said:
Its a question, not an assertion.
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It's a question, but you are making an assertion by asking it considering that there is nothing in the story saying anything about race.
 
dclxvinoise said:
It's a question, but you are making an assertion by asking it considering that there is nothing in the story saying anything about race.
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True, but an assertion based on past experience with the media that reports white on black crime as racially motivated while reporting black on white crime as, well, just crime.
 
Southern Man said:
True, but an assertion based on past experience with the media that reports white on black crime as racially motivated while reporting black on white crime as, well, just crime.
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But this isn't a racial issue at all. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it. The officer thought the sign could be seen as a possible threat, as seen from the article here:

The police officers who stopped Oklahoma City motorist Chip Harrison and confiscated a sign from his car told him he has a right to his beliefs, but the Secret Service "could construe this as a threat against President Obama," according to the incident report released this morning.
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Again I ask, what does race have to do with that? What kills me is that you accuse the media of unfairly calling things racially motivated yet here you are doing the exact same thing with this story even though there is nothing to suggest it.
 
dclxvinoise said:
But this isn't a racial issue at all. Race has absolutely nothing to do with it. The officer thought the sign could be seen as a possible threat, as seen from the article here:



Again I ask, what does race have to do with that? What kills me is that you accuse the media of unfairly calling things racially motivated yet here you are doing the exact same thing with this story even though there is nothing to suggest it.
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There's nothing to suggest it since the story is incomplete. Do you deny that race would be mentioned if the officer was white and the driver black?
 
Southern Man said:
There's nothing to suggest it since the story is incomplete. Do you deny that race would be mentioned if the officer was white and the driver black?
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Absolutely. Then again, I don't pull the race card at every single instance. The race of the people involved has nothing to do with it. It's the context of why the guy was pulled over and it's clear from the story that it's because the officer perceived tat the sticker could be considered a threat by secret service. That's it. Nowhere does it mention race at all. You and only you are bringing that into the story. Now that we've cleared that up you should probably try to stay on topic.
 
Southern Man said:
There's nothing to suggest it since the story is incomplete. Do you deny that race would be mentioned if the officer was white and the driver black?
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Why are you injecting the race card into this at all? You have to prove the elements of racial profiling or hate crime in order for the argument to be relevant. The argument is about an officer overstepping his bounds and seizing property he shouldn't have seized.

Your continual injection of the race issue is detrimental to the discourse because it is completely unfounded. Your line of argument is completely without merit because it doesn't logically follow anything factually relevant to the case. You might as well have come in here and said "what language did the officer speak?" Or "what color car was the person driving."

It's like we're searching for a wild goose laying a red herring here.
 
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None of us would have given the sign on that car a second thought. We see it all the time.

Can you imaging being so unfamiliar with political forums and the evil things we come up with? :mrgreen:
 
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I don't have any problem with the cop pulling the guy over. The President is due a certain amount of respect just cause he's the President whether you like him or not. Many have forgotten that or just don't believe it anymore. In any event you are not legally allowed to suggest that the President ought to be killed, not even on a bumper sticker.
 
sazerac said:
None of us would have given the sign on that car a second thought. We see it all the time.

Can you imaging being so unfamiliar with political forums and the evil things we come up with? :mrgreen:
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You're absolutely right which is why it's rather refreshing that someone got a wrist slap and a reminder.
 
Southern Man said:
You've resorted to ad-hom, which does not surprise me, as it is the last resort of a debate loser.
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Or I could have been delusional like you and picked out a sentence of one of your previous arguments to make it appear that I'm right. :roll:

Keep trying.
 
dclxvinoise said:
Or I could have been delusional like you and picked out a sentence of one of your previous arguments to make it appear that I'm right. :roll:

Keep trying.
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No reason to "keep trying" as I've proved my point as you have so clearly demonstrated. :mrgreen:
 
Southern Man said:
No reason to "keep trying" as I've proved my point as you have so clearly demonstrated. :mrgreen:
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Look, it's been said from the beginning that race wasn't mentioned anywhere in the story. You were the one that brought race into it and you've consistently failed at proving that it had anything to do with it. Then you pick one sentence out of a reply that I made to you and act like that's all I said. Not only is that disingenuous, but it's also lacks substance. I called you on it and you accused me of ad-hom attacks. Unless you can prove your assertion that race had anything to do with this story I'm not going to discuss this topic with you further. If you insist on attacking me or taking my quotes out of context I'm going to report your post and put you on ignore. Fair enough?
 
dclxvinoise said:
Look, it's been said from the beginning that race wasn't mentioned anywhere in the story. You were the one that brought race into it and you've consistently failed at proving that it had anything to do with it. Then you pick one sentence out of a reply that I made to you and act like that's all I said. Not only is that disingenuous, but it's also lacks substance. I called you on it and you accused me of ad-hom attacks. Unless you can prove your assertion that race had anything to do with this story I'm not going to discuss this topic with you further. If you insist on attacking me or taking my quotes out of context I'm going to report your post and put you on ignore. Fair enough?
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You have now committed a straw man.
 
This thread has nothing to do with race. The debatable issue is whether or not the bumper sticker insinuated a death threat to Obama. My take on it is that clearly it's not a serious death threat. But it was a blatant enough insinuation that they driver deserved a bit of bother from an officer inclined to give it to him. You're not allowed to joke about offing the Prez.
 
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