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    Re: OKC officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    I personally think that the irony of someone who is pro-life having a bumper sticker like this is absolutely hilarious. It's like when a pro-life person killed Dr. David Gunn. You aren't exactly pro-life if you are calling for the death of another person.
    Sometimes you have to kill someone to stop him from murdering hundreds or thousands of innocents. I don't see anything wrong with that.

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    Re: OKC officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Sometimes you have to kill someone to stop him from murdering hundreds or thousands of innocents. I don't see anything wrong with that.
    Then you aren't pro-life.

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    Re: OKC officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Then you aren't pro-life.
    Of course I am. You just don't understand what the term means. *shrug*

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    Re: OKC officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Of course I am. You just don't understand what the term means. *shrug*
    Pro-life means pro-life. Advocating the death of an abortion doctor, even if you don't agree with them and you feel that it saves lives (which it doesn't because he is dead now and SURPRISE SURPRISE!! abortion still exists) it doesn't excuse killing them. You can't be half-assed. You are either pro-life or you aren't.

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    Re: OKC officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Pro-life means pro-life. Advocating the death of an abortion doctor, even if you don't agree with them and you feel that it saves lives (which it doesn't because he is dead now and SURPRISE SURPRISE!! abortion still exists) it doesn't excuse killing them. You can't be half-assed. You are either pro-life or you aren't.
    That's like saying prochoice means you must always be willing to allow people the choice to do whatever they want in any given situation. Clearly that's not what prochoice means.

    Pro-choice and Pro-life stances in terms of abortion don't necessarily carry over to other issues. Someone who is pro-life when it comes to abortion need not be a buddhist monk vegetarian. Someone who's pro-choice doesn't have to believe in NEVER EVER restricting choice on other individuals. You wouldn't nasally whine to a prochoicer, "Why are you against a husband killing his wife - aren't you prochoice????"

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    Re: OKC officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    That's like saying prochoice means you must always be willing to allow people the choice to do whatever they want in any given situation. Clearly that's not what prochoice means.

    Pro-choice and Pro-life stances in terms of abortion don't necessarily carry over to other issues. Someone who is pro-life when it comes to abortion need not be a buddhist monk vegetarian. Someone who's pro-choice doesn't have to believe in NEVER EVER restricting choice on other individuals. You wouldn't nasally whine to a prochoicer, "Why are you against a husband killing his wife - aren't you prochoice????"
    No, but in this particular context I think it's a bit hypocritical and ironic to be pro-life while advocating someone's death.

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    Re: OKC officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    No, but in this particular context I think it's a bit hypocritical and ironic to be pro-life while advocating someone's death.
    Pro-life and pro-choice are propaganda terms.
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    Re: OKC officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Pro-life and pro-choice are propaganda terms.
    They may be propaganda terms, but a fair amount of pro-life and pro-choice people identify themselves as such.

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    Re: OKC officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    They may be propaganda terms, but a fair amount of pro-life and pro-choice people identify themselves as such.
    K, but talloulou already covered this. You can identify all you want. Pro-life isn't pro-all life, pro-choice isn't pro-all choice. They are propaganda terms used to push their views on this particular issue. But pro-choice sounds a hell of a lot better than pro-abortion choice. Pro-life sounds a hell of a lot better than pro-fetus life. That's the end all. It's propaganda for the sake of an argument.
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    Re: OKC officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    K, but talloulou already covered this. You can identify all you want. Pro-life isn't pro-all life, pro-choice isn't pro-all choice. They are propaganda terms used to push their views on this particular issue. But pro-choice sounds a hell of a lot better than pro-abortion choice. Pro-life sounds a hell of a lot better than pro-fetus life. That's the end all. It's propaganda for the sake of an argument.
    It doesn't change the irony that a person who identifies themselves as pro-life would have a bumper sticker that advocates someone's death. Obviously they are propaganda terms and nobody is truly pro-life or pro-choice across the board exists. I'm just saying that I personally find it humorous. I realize that nobody is truly pro-life or pro-choice.

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