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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    oh please.

    It's not anywhere NEAR impossible to do. FOR ANYONE. Hard, yes. Impossible? Not even close.

    No person will get sympathy from me for lacking the willpower to stop killing themselves. Neither will I ever in a million years agree that someone (or their families) should be PAID because they lack the willpower to stop killing themselves.

    Poor Mr. Smith. We should pay him millions of dollars because he's so weak he can't stop killing himself. Gimme a break.
    You're flat wrong. But I understand where you are coming from..."libertarian, personal responsibility, the rest of the world is weak, blah blah blah, beat you up and stuff."
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No kidding. All the many thousands of people who quit and geee... it's just damn near impossible to do! I wonder how so many fricken people beat those impossible odds?
    God! Talk about nitpicking a simple expression! "People have quit smoking before so it can't be "almost impossible."

    GOOD GRIEF!!

    I think you both know what I meant! It's DAMN hard to do and obviously some people just can't do it!

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You're flat wrong. But I understand where you are coming from..."libertarian, personal responsibility, the rest of the world is weak, blah blah blah, beat you up and stuff."
    No, I'm not flat wrong. It's not impossible to quit. For anyone.


    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    God! Talk about nitpicking a simple expression! "People have quit smoking before so it can't be "almost impossible."

    GOOD GRIEF!!

    I think you both know what I meant! It's DAMN hard to do and obviously some people just can't do it!
    Everyone CAN do it. People choose not to.

    I never said it wasn't hard, but "hard" and "impossible" are really far apart on the scale. It's NOT impossible, but it IS hard. It's easier for some than others, for sure, but it's not impossible for anyone.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No, I'm not flat wrong. It's not impossible to quit. For anyone.
    I know, I know. Kick those smoker's asses for not being libertarian enough. Ron Paul can help them too. Blah blah blah.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I know, I know. Kick those smoker's asses for not being libertarian enough. Ron Paul can help them too. Blah blah blah.
    Indeed. Smack them for being whiney crybabies. Or, just let them kill themselves. /shrug

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Indeed. Smack them for being whiney crybabies. Or, just let them kill themselves. /shrug
    I know, I know...not everybody can be as tuff as the dragonlady of the great white river so they should all just die. WWRPD, right?

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I know, I know...not everybody can be as tuff as the dragonlady of the great white river so they should all just die. WWRPD, right?
    You are making it seem as though quitting smoking is the equivalent of trying to rid yourself of a tumor by sheer willpower.
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No, I'm not flat wrong. It's not impossible to quit. For anyone.



    Everyone CAN do it. People choose not to.

    I never said it wasn't hard, but "hard" and "impossible" are really far apart on the scale. It's NOT impossible, but it IS hard. It's easier for some than others, for sure, but it's not impossible for anyone.
    I'm gonna guess that you and Danarhea are the only two people who didn't get what I said. I think we all understand that it's not impossible to quit smoking. Not that I ever said it was.

    I'm glad it's all clear now. You can go back to defending murderous drug dealers now.

    And bashing your fellow citizens who got caught up in a deadly habit promoted by the government and by the media.
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    You are making it seem as though quitting smoking is the equivalent of trying to rid yourself of a tumor by sheer willpower.
    No, I am being just as ridiculous in my support of those who suffer addiction as she is in dismissing their difficulties.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, I am being just as ridiculous in my support of those who suffer addiction as she is in dismissing their difficulties.
    Fair enough, though battling one extreme with the other has a tendency to fail.
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