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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Cool, sue the hell outta them so then the tobacco company can go ask -and get- a bailout from our government. Cause like our economy would collapse without income from tobacco taxes.
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Sure he could. But damage is done from one cigarette. Also, the tobacco company caused his addiction so there is punative damage there.
    What damage is done from one cig? Lung cancer? I don't think so.

    The tobacco company did not cause his addiction. No one made him smoke or continue smoking.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Still. A PRIVATE CITIZEN won this case. How does the government benefit from it?
    Taxes?
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    What damage is done from one cig? Lung cancer? I don't think so.
    Whether you think so or not is irrelevant. The facts state otherwise.

    The tobacco company did not cause his addiction. No one made him smoke or continue smoking.
    No but there is an obligation on the part of a product manufacturer to disclose dangers and side effects of a product. The tobacco company did not do that 30 years ago. Liability for an entire generation of uninformed smokers is on them.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Whether you think so or not is irrelevant. The facts state otherwise.



    No but there is an obligation on the part of a product manufacturer to disclose dangers and side effects of a product. The tobacco company did not do that 30 years ago. Liability for an entire generation of uninformed smokers is on them.
    Warnings on packs of cigarettes have been there since the 60's. What should they have done, put skull and crossbones on each pack?
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Warnings on packs of cigarettes have been there since the 60's. What should they have done, put skull and crossbones on each pack?
    There was no full disclosure of the research until the late 70's. I have no desire to get into one of your famous pissing matches over this so put some citations and research up or don't bother.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Whether you think so or not is irrelevant. The facts state otherwise.
    Nothing in that URL says that lung cancer is caused by one cig. In fact, all it says it that smoking one cig will temporarily raise your blood pressure. (Duh?)

    No but there is an obligation on the part of a product manufacturer to disclose dangers and side effects of a product. The tobacco company did not do that 30 years ago. Liability for an entire generation of uninformed smokers is on them.
    I disagree since no one made anyone smoke or continue smoking.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That's because Philip Morris tied the guy down, put a gun to his head, and made him smoke 3 packs a day for 30 years....

    Wait, no they didn't. Is it just me, or does anybody else see a problem with this verdict? I mean, come on, dammit. The guy had a choice, and made that choice. He shouldn't have gotten a dime.

    Article is here.
    This is disgusting. Maybe the dumb **** shouldn't have smoked. Right here I almost started to do a sue McDonald's or Hustler magazine joke, but that ****s played. Glad I stopped myself.
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Nothing in that URL says that lung cancer is caused by one cig. In fact, all it says it that smoking one cig will temporarily raise your blood pressure. (Duh?)


    I disagree since no one made anyone smoke or continue smoking.
    You understand nothing of disclosure obligations when an ingested product is put on the market. That much is obvious.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You understand nothing of disclosure obligations when an ingested product is put on the market. That much is obvious.
    What part of "I disagree" do you not understand? Does "I disagree" say anything about disclosure obligations specifically? Or does it perhaps say that one DISAGREES with them?

    And even if, IF, he started smoking before labels were put on cigs, he STILL continued to smoke LONG after the health effects were common knowledge and he was advised with each purchase of the ill effects of smoking.

    I have no sympathy. And neither should the tobacco company and most certainly not our courts.

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