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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Breathing those pathogens makes you sick. Not breathing air.
    Let's not be silly.

    And also pollution. If it were possible to prove that the cancer a person has can be traced back to pollutants released by a specific company, then there would be even more lawsuits. But since that isn't possible, air pollution continues.

    I'm frankly surprised that huge polluters in America are not already being sued by environmental groups and common people. But as far as your argument goes, it does not stand up to scrutiny. You don't buy air, and there is no distributor of air. We all share it, and are collectively responsible for it. Also, the chemicals in it are not addictive and make you search them out to get your fix, only to get cancer later.

    If companies were bottling air that contained addictive carcinogens for you to breathe, then they should be sued. As it stands, you can't prove which pollutant from which company is harming you, so they get off scott free... unless of course the government comes down on them, which, IMO, they should.
    I'm not sure how you were able to extrapolate an argument from a statement of fact.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    This is asinine on so many levels. That's coming from a smoker, to boot. I know what I am getting myself into and I sure as hell will not blame anyone else for problems I bring on myself.
    What if tomorrow you find out that the microwave you use causes cancer and that the manufacturer knew about it but told you how wonderful and safe it was. Would you hold them responsible for your cancer?

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    What if tomorrow you find out that the microwave you use causes cancer and that the manufacturer knew about it but told you how wonderful and safe it was. Would you hold them responsible for your cancer?




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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    What if tomorrow you find out that the microwave you use causes cancer and that the manufacturer knew about it but told you how wonderful and safe it was. Would you hold them responsible for your cancer?
    Did this happen to this guy? I can agree if it was known by the companies that smoking was dangerous but the info was withheld from the customers but I'm pretty sure this guy took it up long after it was known what it could do or at least the vast majority of his smoking years were after it was well known what the dangers are.
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Sure he could. But damage is done from one cigarette. Also, the tobacco company caused his addiction so there is punative damage there.

    Let's see - how many times have you heard the term - he/she drank themselves to death. I have NEVER heard of a company that dispenses liquor being sued because the person drank for years and dies of liver disease.

    Now why is that? Because evidently cigarette smoking offends more people in this country than drunks driving around and wiping out whole families and killing themselves in "alcohol-related" accidents. How pathetic is that?

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I don't agree that tobacco is equivalent to all the things you mentioned.

    If prescription drugs, alcohol, and caffeine are habit forming to the point that people are getting addicted, and there is no benefit to their intake other than preventing withdrawl or undesireable symptoms, then those distributors are liable to be sued as well.
    And it should be thrown out if it is well known what it can do to you.
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If you did then you were one of big tobacco's customers. If you remember one of the threads you did, I had a big list of products of phillip morris aka Altria group.
    Okay. Is this supposed to upset me?

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    And it should be thrown out if it is well known what it can do to you.
    Addiction.

    Say it with me now.

    A-D-D-I-C-T-I-O-N.

    Phillip Morris and other tobacco companies have refined their products to be as addictive as possible, to keep their drooling customers coming back.

    If people could quit in a day, I would say that the lawsuits have no bearing. The addiction factor, however, gives them justification.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Addiction.

    Say it with me now.

    A-D-D-I-C-T-I-O-N.

    Phillip Morris and other tobacco companies have refined their products to be as addictive as possible, to keep their drooling customers coming back.

    If people could quit in a day, I would say that the lawsuits have no bearing. The addiction factor, however, gives them justification.
    So? Addiction does not mean you cannot quit, many do quit smoking and also these people knew both the dangers and the risk of addiction.

    Personal responsbility.

    Say it with me now.

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