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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal
    Some diseases are transmitted via airborne pathogens, so breathing air can make you sick.
    And also pollution. If it were possible to prove that the cancer a person has can be traced back to pollutants released by a specific company, then there would be even more lawsuits. But since that isn't possible, air pollution continues.

    I'm frankly surprised that huge polluters in America are not already being sued by environmental groups and common people. But as far as your argument goes, it does not stand up to scrutiny. You don't buy air, and there is no distributor of air. We all share it, and are collectively responsible for it. Also, the chemicals in it are not addictive and make you search them out to get your fix, only to get cancer later.

    If companies were bottling air that contained addictive carcinogens for you to breathe, then they should be sued. As it stands, you can't prove which pollutant from which company is harming you, so they get off scott free... unless of course the government comes down on them, which, IMO, they should.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Okay...I hate stupid lawsuits but I can see this on one condition: the premise of the suit was that the man began smoking BEFORE the tobacco companies released information (which they would have had to withhold knowing the dangers) on how deadly their product is.

    That's the only way I can see this being legitimate.
    I knew smoking was harmful in 1958 when I was 10 years old. I don't need a weatherman to tell me it's raining. You put something in your mouth, you light it on fire, then you suck smoke out of it and in to your lungs. You repeat this process over and over each day for weeks, months, years until you find your self gagging and choking every morning, noon and night. Then you sue someone else!!!!!!! (I shouda went to law school.)
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    james, my friend, you are talking to someone who has NO tolerance for smokers. I agree with everything you stated above. I think the amount of money this woman got is insane, and I hope it gets reduced. Nevertheless, I like seeing the cigarette companies get penalized for knowingly lying to its customers. Shame on them. Frankly, I would be embarrassed to be a part of a company that preys on people's weakness.
    The jury rejected Elian Hess' demand for 130 million dollars compensation, arguing that her husband Stuart Hess was partly responsible for his death since he smoked three packs a day of Benson & Hedges before he died at age 55 in 1997.
    Apparently it already got reduced. Nevertheless, I don't think cigarettes were being marketed as healthy around 1967. That may have been true 20 years earlier.
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    james, my friend, you are talking to someone who has NO tolerance for smokers. I agree with everything you stated above. I think the amount of money this woman got is insane, and I hope it gets reduced. Nevertheless, I like seeing the cigarette companies get penalized for knowingly lying to its customers. Shame on them. Frankly, I would be embarrassed to be a part of a company that preys on people's weakness.
    Do you think high taxes and fines on the companies will hurt the companies or will they just like any other company on earth pass those cost to the consumers? Alot of their customer are addicts so a lot of them are not going to quit over night because of price increases, some of their costumers do not even know they are customers because some of these companies have products other than tobacco.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    I knew smoking was harmful in 1958 when I was 10 years old. I don't need a weatherman to tell me it's raining. You put something in your mouth, you light it on fire, then you suck smoke out of it and in to your lungs. You repeat this process over and over each day for weeks, months, years until you find your self gagging and choking every morning, noon and night. Then you sue someone else!!!!!!! (I shouda went to law school.)
    Common sense eludes a lot of people, especially most liberals.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Do you think high taxes and fines on the companies will hurt the companies or will they just like any other company on earth pass those cost to the consumers? Alot of their customer are addicts so a lot of them are not going to quit over night because of price increases, some of their costumers do not even know they are customers because some of these companies have products other than tobacco.
    Good point, but I do believe that higher prices do cause some to quit. Special Report: Higher Cigarette Taxes: Reduce Smoking, Save Lives, Save Money

    But to be honest with you, I don't care about the customers and if they are forced to pay a higher price due to the company's passing on their fines to them. It's the price they have to pay for their disgusting habit.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    But to be honest with you, I don't care about the customers and if they are forced to pay a higher price due to the company's passing on their fines to them. It's the price they have to pay for their disgusting habit.
    Did you buy anything with the Kraft, Nabisco, or General Mills name on it before march of 2008?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That's because Philip Morris tied the guy down, put a gun to his head, and made him smoke 3 packs a day for 30 years....

    Wait, no they didn't. Is it just me, or does anybody else see a problem with this verdict? I mean, come on, dammit. The guy had a choice, and made that choice. He shouldn't have gotten a dime.

    Article is here.
    Yay, let's put the tobacco industry out of business in this country as we have so many others! More unemployment; but not to worry, Obama will find them a "green" job working for the Government.


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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Did you buy anything with the Kraft, Nabisco, or General Mills name on it before march of 2008?
    Why?......

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Why?......
    If you did then you were one of big tobacco's customers. If you remember one of the threads you did, I had a big list of products of phillip morris aka Altria group.
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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