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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    YOU said O2. YOU said breathing O2 cannot make you sick.
    You are correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey
    Breathing O2 can not make you sick. Ever.
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Some diseases are transmitted via airborne pathogens, so breathing air can make you sick.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Some diseases are transmitted via airborne pathogens, so breathing air can make you sick.
    Which was my point, though Hatuey seems to have missed it.
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Some diseases are transmitted via airborne pathogens, so breathing air can make you sick.
    Breathing those pathogens makes you sick. Not breathing air.
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Breathing those pathogens makes you sick. Not breathing air.
    It is pretty hard to do the one without the other I'd imagine.
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Breathing those pathogens makes you sick. Not breathing air.
    So you can breath airborne pathogens without breathing air? C'mon you cannot honestly believe that.
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I think there is legitimacy to a lawsuit for someone who had already developed a smoking addiction during the period of cover-up by the tobacco industry. Not only does that show negligence by the tobacco company, but it is also intent to do knowingly do harm to the person and to society with their cover-up.

    If any other industry knowingly sold arsenic laced food products for a generation, would we permit that to go unanswered with a simple "derrr, well they didn't have to eat that particular brand of food"?
    You know, jallman, you have made me see this issue differently. I thought this lawsuit was bogus. Your discussions, however, has changed my mind about this type of case (a case where the person became addicted at a time when cigarette companies were promoting cigarettes as being healthy).

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    You know, jallman, you have made me see this issue differently. I thought this lawsuit was bogus. Your discussions, however, has changed my mind about this type of case (a case where the person became addicted at a time when cigarette companies were promoting cigarettes as being healthy).
    He had plenty of time to quit smoking. I quit smoking smoking over three years ago.Millions of other people quit smoking. Some people go cold turkey, use nicotine patches,nicotine gum,use nicotine lozenges or while going cold turkey they trick their mind into thinking their body wants something different like a piece of mint candy.
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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    He had plenty of time to quit smoking. I quit smoking smoking over three years ago.Millions of other people quit smoking. Some people go cold turkey, use nicotine patches,nicotine gum,use nicotine lozenges or while going cold turkey they trick their mind into thinking their body wants something different like a piece of mint candy.
    james, my friend, you are talking to someone who has NO tolerance for smokers. I agree with everything you stated above. I think the amount of money this woman got is insane, and I hope it gets reduced. Nevertheless, I like seeing the cigarette companies get penalized for knowingly lying to its customers. Shame on them. Frankly, I would be embarrassed to be a part of a company that preys on people's weakness.

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    Re: Philip Morris told to pay 8 mln in smoker's death

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    You mean like alcohol, caffeine, prescription drugs, chocolate, fast food, fatty junk food, so on and so forth?

    How is it their fault if someone hurts themselves with their product?
    I don't agree that tobacco is equivalent to all the things you mentioned.

    If prescription drugs, alcohol, and caffeine are habit forming to the point that people are getting addicted, and there is no benefit to their intake other than preventing withdrawl or undesireable symptoms, then those distributors are liable to be sued as well.

    Fast foot, fatty junk food, and chocolate, while good, are not addictive. You won't get ill from not having them because your body doesn't get hooked.

    Tobacco companies are responsible for peddling toxic, addictive substances that many of their customers have an incredibly difficult time quitting. It's not just in their imaginations. Addiction is real, and these companies are making billions off it. I say sue away.

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