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    Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I surely hope they do. More money to the "real America" (TM Sarah Palin). Then again those GOP governors who have been quote are governors of some the most backward states in the US, so no wonder..... Yea Louisiana needs no help to take it out of the bottom of most statistics.. yea.. right. Hey, here is a thought, take all the money for reconstruction from Katrina and Rita out of the state, since they want to go it alone...
    Before you go on to bashing southern states, have a look at where the EU giants stack up as US states.
    Don't worry, it was done by a bunch of Swedes who were curious.
    Are you?

    http://www.timbro.se/bokhandel/pdf/9175665646.pdf
    See where the Top EU countries would rank as US States

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    Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money [EDIT]

    By voting against the stimulus, Republican lawmakers are on record that their constituents don't need it.

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    Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    By voting against the stimulus, Republican lawmakers are on record that their constituents don't need it.
    I think Obama voters should increase their tax burden by 50%, and let those that didn't vote Obama get a tax cut.

    Why should we have to pay for their stupidity?
    What? Their base doesn't pay that much in taxes?

    And when taxes are too low, as they always bitch, they can pay extra. Nobody is stopping them.

    But what happens?
    They nominate Tax Cheats for Cabinet positions.
    Or they write-off used underwear.
    Or give .00001% of their income to charity.

    Anybody see a disconnect here?

    Can we officially label Daschle, Geithner and Killefer "Unpatriotic"?
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    Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Before you go on to bashing southern states, have a look at where the EU giants stack up as US states.
    Don't worry, it was done by a bunch of Swedes who were curious.
    Are you?

    http://www.timbro.se/bokhandel/pdf/9175665646.pdf
    See where the Top EU countries would rank as US States

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    Great find Zimmer !!

    So Pete, how do you think Louisiana stacks up against Spain and the rest of your precious EU countries now?? At least you are among the 11% of Spaniards that own a computer, or are you using a computer at school?

    Your roasted crow is almost ready for you to eat.

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    Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Before you go on to bashing southern states, have a look at where the EU giants stack up as US states.
    Don't worry, it was done by a bunch of Swedes who were curious.
    Are you?

    http://www.timbro.se/bokhandel/pdf/9175665646.pdf
    See where the Top EU countries would rank as US States

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    So you are saying that because we are discussing the US, that you have to inflict Europe into the debate? Are you some how ashamed over the "poor" states because some of them have GOP Governors? Or do you deny that Louisiana is considered a "poor" state? In 2007 the per captia GDP of Louisiana was 35K US. That is under the US average is it not? What about a place like Arkansas (27.7k) and Mississippi (24.4k).. are they not even less well off? So you really think that Mississippi will say no to a government hand out because the governor is a Republican? Considering how the GOP representatives in Congress have flipped 180% and are doing everything to get government bailout money for their districts, then I highly doubt that the Governors will be stupid enough to say no to any thing in the stimulus package that is coming there way.

    McClatchy Washington Bureau | 02/13/2009 | GOP lawmakers tout projects in the stimulus bill they opposed

    As for your link. Interesting out of date information. The numbers are a decade old for god sake. Also again what does it have to do with the discussion!? If you want to discuss economic numbers between the US-US states-Europe- European states, start a thread! I will be glad to join you there.
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    Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Great find Zimmer !!

    So Pete, how do you think Louisiana stacks up against Spain and the rest of your precious EU countries now?? At least you are among the 11% of Spaniards that own a computer, or are you using a computer at school?

    Your roasted crow is almost ready for you to eat.
    Hey, Spain is in the relative dark ages when it comes to information technology, I have never denied that. However now days it is not far off the US in certain areas, and that is impressive considering it is still hard to get a freaking phone here.

    However, again the numbers are freaking 10 years old, a lot of things have changed during the last decade. Not to mention there is very little source material in the article, but hey..

    Again if you want to discuss the statistical differences on various subjects between the US and Europe, start a thread and I will join you.
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    Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money [EDIT]

    Surely each governor has to look at the stimulus money and make sure it is all consistent with the long term plans of the state. Or projects that are useless to the state.

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    Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money [EDIT]

    Hmmm....

    What happens if they do reject the money, and their economies (states) recover at about the same pace or faster than the rest of the "stimulus" nation?

    States can enact their own forms of stimulus through municipal bond auctions, which have recently become quite popular. Except for California

    Although i highly doubt you will see localized governments issuing bonds to "save the whales"....
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    Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I surely hope they do. More money to the "real America" (TM Sarah Palin). Then again those GOP governors who have been quote are governors of some the most backward states in the US, so no wonder..... Yea Louisiana needs no help to take it out of the bottom of most statistics.. yea.. right. Hey, here is a thought, take all the money for reconstruction from Katrina and Rita out of the state, since they want to go it alone...
    Yes, we do have some backwards-assed, ignorant individuals living here in Louisiana (they usually either vote for those with D's by their names or they, themselves, have D's by their names). It was an ego boost to this Louisianian when I toured parts of Europe 2 years ago and realized that Louisiana was much more advanced (relative to Europe) than I thought! Now, my recent trip to Mexico and Guatemala did show me that there are many who live in standards lower than southern Europe. Don't worry, Obama is working on bringing us down so that we can eventually look up to you European Unionites (is that a legit word?). But, I digress, back to the subject at hand...

    I do agree that those true Republican governors who really want to do the right thing should just reject the tainted federal money and not posture for media attention (Dems won't give up free money even for the attention). Rick Perry of Texas does not surprise me by agreeing to take some money - I have always thought of him as a Bush-like RINO who sucks up too much to liberals. I don't know how my true conservative Texas buddies can stand to have him as their governor (okay, admittedly, I didn't commit suicide while liberal Democrat Blanco helped to destroy Louisiana for 4 years).

    And, concerning your ignorant Katrina statement... while I do not agree with the huge sums of post-Katrina money requested from the feds by those of the Mary Landrieu (D) ilk, I do feel that the federal government and some local politicians let New Orleans area residents down by not ensuring that levees actually lived up to their design standards (and tax dollars that were spent). Of course, now we find that after years of politicizing and poor engineering, the Corps of Engineers has probably been a leading reason for many areas flooded by Katrina as well as devastating midwestern floods.
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    Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    By voting against the stimulus, Republican lawmakers are on record that their constituents don't need it.
    Will, I'm not fond of your politics, but, having the good sense of humor that I do, that bumper sticker on your post is hilarious!

    You do realize, I hope, that many of the Democrats who voted for the "steal-from-us" package did so only for political expediency. They were scared to death to vote against the Obama-Pelosi-Reid triad! I do see that 7 ballsy Dems did take the bull by the horns and oppose the great Pelosi! I can't wait to see Pennsyvanians oust Specter (Rino-Pa) next time he comes up for reelection.
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