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    Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Pope Benedict XVI on Wednesday told U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, a Catholic who supports abortion rights, that Catholic politicians have a duty to protect life "at all stages of its development."

    Pelosi is the first top Democrat to meet with Benedict since the election of Barack Obama, who won a majority of the American Catholic vote despite differences with the Vatican on abortion.

    The Vatican released the pope's remarks to Pelosi, saying Benedict spoke of the church's teaching "on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death." That is an expression often used by the pope when expressing opposition to abortion.
    ......it is the duty of catholic politicians to protect life? No. It is the duty of politicians to serve the people who voted for them.
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

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    ......it is the duty of catholic politicians to protect life? No. It is the duty of politicians to serve the people who voted for them.

    One would argue that if one claims to be a catholic then one should uphold catholic beliefs, not throw them under the bus just because they are in office.

    If a politician claimed to be a liberal but voted with conservatives on almost every issue and really had conservative beliefs, would you call that politician a liberal?
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    ......it is the duty of catholic politicians to protect life? No. It is the duty of politicians to serve the people who voted for them.
    So she only serves the pro-abortionists?
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    NO, she only serves her own self interest.

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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    One would argue that if one claims to be a catholic then one should uphold catholic beliefs, not throw them under the bus just because they are in office.
    I'm partly with you except for one thing. What do you say to the non catholic voters who are worried you will do as the pope tells you regardless of the will of your constituents? Should we then refuse to vote for Catholics as the only alternative to being dictated to by a non-elected politician (which is what the pope has become)? I believe Kennedy had it right in that he was a Catholic in his personal life but an elected official in his professional life. The two do not mix, nor should they. BTW, I hope it was Kennedy who said that, otherwise I must look like quite the buffoon.
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    After getting shown up in one ant-Catholic thread, Hatuey has to throw up another one? This is getting old Hatuey.
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post

    ......it is the duty of catholic politicians to protect life? No. It is the duty of politicians to serve the people who voted for them.
    If you are Catholic and claim to support the tenets of the faith, you should do your utmost to live by those tenets in both your professional and private life.
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    ......it is the duty of catholic politicians to protect life? No.
    Of course it is! It is the Humane duty of EVERYONE who lives to protect life.

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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    After getting shown up in one ant-Catholic thread, Hatuey has to throw up another one? This is getting old Hatuey.
    Getting shown up? Still having premature ejaculations eh Ludahai?

    Read the thread :

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...idence-11.html

    Like you ussually do. You disappear when hit with facts. Like your claim that Jews survived more in Catholic countries even though well. 2 million Jews were killed in Poland, a country with a 90% Catholic majority. Keep trying ludahai. Waited a full 2 pages to reply with the same nonsense you had spewed before. Maybe sometime your coward will be revered by people who don't realize he was a coward. Until then.
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    One would argue that if one claims to be a catholic then one should uphold catholic beliefs, not throw them under the bus just because they are in office.

    If a politician claimed to be a liberal but voted with conservatives on almost every issue and really had conservative beliefs, would you call that politician a liberal?
    Politicians are elected on the premise that they'll stand for the beliefs of their constituents. Not those of a religion. Nanci Pelosi, Sarah Palin, Obama etc were elected by the people who wanted their interests served. Not the Catholic Church, The baptist church, or TUCC. When the Catholic Church has a vote in our elections then maybe I'll care about politicians serving the interests of a church do.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 02-18-09 at 08:59 PM.
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