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Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

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Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

Pope Benedict XVI on Wednesday told U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, a Catholic who supports abortion rights, that Catholic politicians have a duty to protect life "at all stages of its development."

Pelosi is the first top Democrat to meet with Benedict since the election of Barack Obama, who won a majority of the American Catholic vote despite differences with the Vatican on abortion.

The Vatican released the pope's remarks to Pelosi, saying Benedict spoke of the church's teaching "on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death." That is an expression often used by the pope when expressing opposition to abortion.

......it is the duty of catholic politicians to protect life? No. It is the duty of politicians to serve the people who voted for them.
 
Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support



......it is the duty of catholic politicians to protect life? No. It is the duty of politicians to serve the people who voted for them.


One would argue that if one claims to be a catholic then one should uphold catholic beliefs, not throw them under the bus just because they are in office.

If a politician claimed to be a liberal but voted with conservatives on almost every issue and really had conservative beliefs, would you call that politician a liberal?
 
NO, she only serves her own self interest.
 
One would argue that if one claims to be a catholic then one should uphold catholic beliefs, not throw them under the bus just because they are in office.

I'm partly with you except for one thing. What do you say to the non catholic voters who are worried you will do as the pope tells you regardless of the will of your constituents? Should we then refuse to vote for Catholics as the only alternative to being dictated to by a non-elected politician (which is what the pope has become)? I believe Kennedy had it right in that he was a Catholic in his personal life but an elected official in his professional life. The two do not mix, nor should they. BTW, I hope it was Kennedy who said that, otherwise I must look like quite the buffoon. :lol:
 
......it is the duty of catholic politicians to protect life? No. It is the duty of politicians to serve the people who voted for them.

If you are Catholic and claim to support the tenets of the faith, you should do your utmost to live by those tenets in both your professional and private life.
 
After getting shown up in one ant-Catholic thread, Hatuey has to throw up another one? This is getting old Hatuey.

Getting shown up? Still having premature ejaculations eh Ludahai?

Read the thread :

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...holocaust-denier-will-review-evidence-11.html

Like you ussually do. You disappear when hit with facts. Like your claim that Jews survived more in Catholic countries even though well. 2 million Jews were killed in Poland, a country with a 90% Catholic majority. Keep trying ludahai. Waited a full 2 pages to reply with the same nonsense you had spewed before. Maybe sometime your coward will be revered by people who don't realize he was a coward. Until then.
 
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One would argue that if one claims to be a catholic then one should uphold catholic beliefs, not throw them under the bus just because they are in office.

If a politician claimed to be a liberal but voted with conservatives on almost every issue and really had conservative beliefs, would you call that politician a liberal?

Politicians are elected on the premise that they'll stand for the beliefs of their constituents. Not those of a religion. Nanci Pelosi, Sarah Palin, Obama etc were elected by the people who wanted their interests served. Not the Catholic Church, The baptist church, or TUCC. When the Catholic Church has a vote in our elections then maybe I'll care about politicians serving the interests of a church do.
 
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If she claims to be Catholic then she also has a duty to govern ethically in accordance with Catholic tradition.
If she claims to be Catholic, what is she doing in a Gay Pride parade?
 
If she claims to be Catholic then she also has a duty to govern ethically in accordance with Catholic tradition.

If that were true, then there would have been no Iraq war, and no death penalty.
 
If that were true, then there would have been no Iraq war, and no death penalty.
Agreed with the Iraq War, disagree with death penalty. But yes, I get the sentiment.
 
Nope, it's the duty of all mankind to protect life.

Source? The bible? Thanks for playing. I'm an atheist.

It's the duty of all politicians to enforce the Constitution, which would require them to oppose Roe vs. Wade.

Source?
 
Source? The bible? Thanks for playing. I'm an atheist.
And I should care why?

U.S. Constitution. You know that non-existent clause giving the federal government the power to force states to allow abortion?
 
And I should care why?

So you can't provide a source where it says it is my duty to protect 'life'? Noted. Once again Defensor has no dog in any fight.

U.S. Constitution. You know that non-existent clause giving the federal government the power to force states to allow abortion?

Rofl :

Roe v. Wade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), is a United States Supreme Court case that resulted in a landmark decision regarding abortion.[1] According to the Roe decision, most laws against abortion in the United States violated a constitutional right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The decision overturned all state and federal laws outlawing or restricting abortion that were inconsistent with its holdings. Roe v. Wade is one of the most controversial and politically significant cases in U.S. Supreme Court history. Its lesser-known companion case, Doe v. Bolton, was decided at the same time.[2]
 
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Wow, you know how to work Wikipedia, bravo. :roll:

Now are you ready to provide that clause from the Constitution that deals with abortion as a federal issue?

I don't have to. Abortion is covered under the constitutional right to privacy. Are you illiterate or something?

And I'm still waiting for you to show me where it says it my duty to protect life.
 
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I don't have to. Abortion is covered under the constitutional right to privacy. Are you illiterate or something?
You don't have to? :roll:

I guess this debate is done since "you don't have to" back up your own claims.

And I'm still waiting for you to show me where it says it my duty to protect life.
Whether you believe it to be true or not is inconsequential to me.
 
You don't have to? :roll:

Not really.

I guess this debate is done since "you don't have to" back up your own claims.

Ummmm did you just ignore what I posted because you can't read what is in the quotations? But here :

Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Whether you believe it to be true or not is inconsequential to me.

Oh - So there is ABSOLUTELY NO U.N. Charter, Treaty, Agreement U.S. Legal Document where it says it is my duty to protect life? Thanks for playing.
 
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Not really.



Ummmm did you just ignore what I posted because you can't read what is in the quotations?



Oh - So there is ABSOLUTELY NO U.N. Charter, Treaty, Agreement U.S. Legal Document where it says it is my duty to protect life? Thanks for playing.

hatuey, why do you need any of those documents to tell you what your duty is? if there was one, would you accept that as the truth?
 
hatuey, why do you need any of those documents to tell you what your duty is? if there was one, would you accept that as the truth?

Ummmm a duty is something I am required to do. By which law am I required to protect life? What contract did I sign that says I must protect life? I love how none of you can answer who says it is my duty to protect life because well I'm an atheist.
 
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