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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Oh really, did he start a war on the Jewish establishment and slaughter them in protest? Or did he take them on in a peaceful, pacifist like manner?
    He did run through the temple with a bull whip acting like a madman such that people fled in fear.

    Supposedly the Ethiopians have supplemental scripture of Jesus harming people with his powers for petty revenge when he was a child. ( I've yet to look this up myself so its merely hear-say for now.)
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    Questioning or criticizing another's core beliefs is inadvertently perceived as offensive and rude.

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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Getting shown up? Still having premature ejaculations eh Ludahai?

    Read the thread :

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...idence-11.html

    Like you ussually do. You disappear when hit with facts. Like your claim that Jews survived more in Catholic countries even though well. 2 million Jews were killed in Poland, a country with a 90% Catholic majority. Keep trying ludahai. Waited a full 2 pages to reply with the same nonsense you had spewed before. Maybe sometime your coward will be revered by people who don't realize he was a coward. Until then.
    Actually, YOU are the one who disappeared after I made a proposal for a true debate with you this summer and posted a link with some reality about what the Church did.
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Oh please, ludahai. Do you believe everything Catholicism tells you? If so, wow--you clearly don't have a mind of your own.

    I am so glad to be rid of that ridiculous religion. No offense to Catholics.
    What makes Catholicism such a rediculous religion? You ignore the wonderful things the Catholic Church has done for nearly two thousand years as well as the fact that if everyone lived by the teachings of the Faith, there would be far fewer problems in the world than there are now.
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Before you accuse me of being pro-catholic. No I am not pro-catholic, I think Catholic are pagans not Christians. Anyone who preys/venerates to someone other than God is not a christian. Thats why I refer to catholics as pagans or when I talk about about their beliefs I say Catholicism, not Christianity .
    Catholics are Christians. Where did you get the Bible from?
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Catholics are Christians. Where did you get the Bible from?
    Catholics pray to many different "gods" (saints) and also have their followers practically worship "holy" beings such as bishops, cardinals, and the pope.

    You could easily make the comparison to Greek structure of paganism.
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Catholics pray to many different "gods" (saints) and also have their followers practically worship "holy" beings such as bishops, cardinals, and the pope.

    You could easily make the comparison to Greek structure of paganism.
    Do you know what we are asking the saints to do when we pray the litany of the saints?

    And NO, we do NOT worship saints, bishops, cardinals, the Pope or even Mary.

    Of course, I don't expect non-Catholics who don't understand our faith to get the nuances, but you could please educate yourself before spouting off such obvious untruths.
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Actually, YOU are the one who disappeared after I made a proposal for a true debate with you this summer and posted a link with some reality about what the Church did.
    Dude....I posted...and like 3 days later you decided to post. Long after Arch Enemy or I had stopped posting. Get a clue.
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Do you know what we are asking the saints to do when we pray the litany of the saints?
    Yes I do.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And NO, we do NOT worship saints, bishops, cardinals, the Pope or even Mary.

    Of course, I don't expect non-Catholics who don't understand our faith to get the nuances, but you could please educate yourself before spouting off such obvious untruths.
    I didn't say Catholicism is actually pagan or that saints are worshiped (hence the quotes). I said that, from the outside, I could see how comparisons to paganism could be made.
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And if these politicians were elected on the premise that they were going to further the agendas of their constituents and not those an organization then you'd be completely right. But as it stands it is not the duty of any politician to further the agenda of the Catholic church.
    You are mistaking representatives for delegates. It is the duty of politicians to further the interests of their constituents as they stand in society not the "general will" shorn of all social associations and loyalties and it is the duty of politicians to use their judgement to do this. If you want delegates you have the wrong system.
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Catholics pray to many different "gods" (saints) and also have their followers practically worship "holy" beings such as bishops, cardinals, and the pope.

    You could easily make the comparison to Greek structure of paganism.
    No, we ask Saints to intervene, and help us pray to God.

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