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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Roman Catholic is the largest religious group in California. Maybe that is why she was elected.

    * Catholic cities are always the most interesting. Boston, New Orleans, San Francisco. Santa Fe is probably Catholic.

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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If that were true, then there would have been no Iraq war, and no death penalty.
    War and death penalty are not prohibited by Christian tradition.

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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    War and death penalty are not prohibited by Christian tradition.
    Well considering Jesus was a pacifist.....
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Well considering Jesus was a pacifist.....
    Why would a pacifist take on the Jewish establishment?

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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Why would a pacifist take on the Jewish establishment?
    Oh really, did he start a war on the Jewish establishment and slaughter them in protest? Or did he take them on in a peaceful, pacifist like manner?
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you are saying that you would vote for a right wing politician?
    Not if I don't believe he'll sand for my beliefs.

    There is reason why there is not a" I could care less who wins" option. It is because we pick politicians whose views closely match ours. Thats why you vote for liberal politicians and I vote for conservative politicians
    And since the Catholic Church has no vote in our elections then it is not the duty of any politician Catholic or otherwise to follow what the church says or preaches.

    IF you are religious then that religion you prescribe to is part of your beliefs. Its no different than a politician who is for gay marriage or a politician who is against abortion or a politician who is against illegal immigration for our outsourcing. You don't throw those views under the bus just because you got elected.
    And if these politicians were elected on the premise that they were going to further the agendas of their constituents and not those an organization then you'd be completely right. But as it stands it is not the duty of any politician to further the agenda of the Catholic church.

    Again if you actually claim to be part of a religion you do not throw that religion under the bus just because you got elected to office.

    I don't know about you but if I vote for a politician who claims to be of a particular political ideology and a certian religion then I expect that politician to uphold the beliefs of that ideology and religious beliefs.

    If politicians claim to be a of a particular faith and they are not practicing or abiding by that faith then they should be called on it by their fellow religious members and leaders.
    Jebus H. Jimenez did you really need to repeat yourself three times? Do you not understand that it is not Nanci Pelosi's duty or for that matter that of any politician Catholic or otherwise to push the agenda of their church but that of their constituents irregardless of the faith/beliefs of these constituents?
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Oh really, did he start a war on the Jewish establishment and slaughter them in protest? Or did he take them on in a peaceful, pacifist like manner?
    Jesus was a gangster.
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Elected officials shouldn't have to follow the requests of any organizations, and I would argue that they shouldn't at all. I don't want some organization dictating what a politician I elected thinks. Be it social, religious, or political. They only need to follow the voice of those that voted them into office and even then it's not a requirement.

    Would those that believe Pelosi should follow the beliefs of the Catholic church because she is a member also criticize her for not following the beliefs of say the ACLU, Greenpeace, etc. if she claims to be a member?
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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    This is typical of zealots. Pluralism and tolerance... until I disagree.

    Listen carefully: its not about whether you think YOU are right--thats a given--its whether other's views are reasonably probable too.
    If you believe in the Supernatural then you can become a millionaire!

    Questioning or criticizing another's core beliefs is inadvertently perceived as offensive and rude.

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    Re: Pope to US Speaker Pelosi: Reject abortion support

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Oh really, did he start a war on the Jewish establishment and slaughter them in protest? Or did he take them on in a peaceful, pacifist like manner?
    As I recall He violently turned over the tables of the money changers, then destroyed the Temple in three days. *shrug*

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