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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    False premise. Not all government programs are socialism.
    And, even if the Hoover Dam WERE socialism, your response doesn't invalidate what I posted.
    I'll agree, but the number of projects that would qualify requiring government involvement outside of national security is a drop in the ocean.
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    Re: Is Obama steering us toward Socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    LMFAO.

    With the shreds we were able to find out about Obama through off-script moments, tapes, and his books he revealed himself to be a socialist:

    He owns the most liberal voting record during his time in the Senate. Further left than an admitted socialist.
    His friends. Racist. Socialist.
    Associates. Terrorist. Crook.
    His upbringing (nothing to do with his Muslim father by the way).
    His activities before going to law school. Community organizing a'la Rules for Radikals... Saul Alinsky.
    The moments he was off-script and let his guard down. Spread. Guns. Religion. No preconditions.
    His scant, and highly selective voting record in the IL Senate.
    He pushed a law for infanticide hard in the IL Senate.

    Many, many indications he was and would remain a socialist.
    Have you passed a middle-school English class? Putting a period after a word does not complete any sentence, or any logical thought pattern.

    Okay, so Obama was an activist... George Bush did hard drugs. Does that make Bush a socialist? I mean it's the liberals who do the hard drugs, right?

    "His Friends. Racist." His friends are racist, or is he a racist, or what? Any valuable sources to prove any of this?

    "He owns the most liberal voting record during his time in the Senate" Do you have a source for this? Other it just you making **** up, again.

    Give me a check-list of what a socialist is, and then compare it with Obama platform and previous legislation, and we can see for reals if Mr. Obamaer is that gd Socialist you are all screaming about.
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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

    So, could someone define what they mean when they say "socialist" please? Are you just saying socialism = government intervention?

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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    So, could someone define what they mean when they say "socialist" please? Are you just saying socialism = government intervention?
    That is what I am guessing they mean.
    That anytime a government puts his/her metaphorical penis into the metaphorical vagina of the country's economy, then it is socalism, if not a hostile take over of virginity (or a dictatorship)
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    Re: Is Obama steering us toward Socialism?

    Here is a thread about the Obama Most Liberal Senator from the guys and gals here:
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-ele...ng-record.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Have you passed a middle-school English class? Putting a period after a word does not complete any sentence, or any logical thought pattern.
    Do you write advertising?
    Didn't think so.
    Do you read it?
    This isn't English class.
    It's OK to write as you like.
    You sound like you were slapped for coloring outside the lines.

    Okay, so Obama was an activist... George Bush did hard drugs. Does that make Bush a socialist? I mean it's the liberals who do the hard drugs, right?
    Know what?
    I could care less about the drugs.
    His mentor as a youth was a commi.
    He was surrounded by socialists his whole upbringing.
    He believes not in equal rights and letting everyone achieve the level they do, he believes in leveling the playing field.

    "His Friends. Racist." His friends are racist, or is he a racist, or what? Any valuable sources to prove any of this?
    Have you ever listened to the Men of God he listened to for twenty years?
    Not twenty months.
    Not twenty days.... Twenty years.
    He used a line from his sermon as the title of one of his books.
    "He owns the most liberal voting record during his time in the Senate" Do you have a source for this? Other it just you making **** up, again.
    National Public Radio NPR

    The National Journal is out with its 27th Annual vote ratings and it ranked Sen. Barack Obama as the most liberal Senator in the entire Senate.NPR: Obama Ranked Most Liberal Senator in 2007
    Give me a check-list of what a socialist is, and then compare it with Obama platform and previous legislation, and we can see for reals if Mr. Obamaer is that gd Socialist you are all screaming about.
    I think his actions to date as president are consistent with socialist ideology.
    That's all you need.
    He's been in office a month and had passed Porkzilla, something Marx would have loved, they tried to sneak all manner of socialism in there like provisions for health care.
    Last edited by zimmer; 02-18-09 at 12:55 PM.
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    Re: Is Obama steering us toward Socialism?

    [QUOTE=zimmer;1057930018]
    Do you write advertising?
    Didn't think so.
    Do you read it?
    This isn't English class.
    It's OK to write as you like.
    You sound like you were slapped for coloring outside the lines.
    Dude I seriously couldn't color within the lines, nor could I talk well, nor could I write in cursive or do multiplication. I was two brain cells away from being tossed out of academia and given shovel and told to farm.
    Know what?
    I could care less about the drugs.
    His mentor as a youth was a commi.
    He was surrounded by socialists his whole upbringing.
    He believes not in equal rights and letting everyone achieve the level they do, he believes in leveling the playing field.
    Yay more abstract political ideologies to deal with. What kind of "commi" are we talking about here? Which school of communism? Whose school of communism? Is it just communism modified, or Communism hammified?

    Have you ever listened to the Men of God he listened to for twenty years?
    Not twenty months.
    Not twenty days.... Twenty years.
    He used a line from his sermon as the title of one of his books.
    Have no idea what that was. But I spent the better part of 5 years watching wrestling. I also still feel the need to catch an old school Nickolodeon show, like Rocko's Modern life which is about an Australian wallaby and a barney-sounding cow named heifer.



    I think his actions to date as president are consistent with socialist ideology.
    That's all you need.
    He's been in office a month and had passed Porkzilla, and they tried to sneak all manner of socialism in there.
    Not very convincing.
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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    So, could someone define what they mean when they say "socialist" please? Are you just saying socialism = government intervention?
    Socialism is where the government owns and/or controls the means of producing and distributing weath, and redistributes weath through the welfare state.

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    Re: Is Obama steering us toward Socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Know what?
    I could care less about the drugs.
    Never mind that said claim is nothing but an unsupportable slur.

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    Re: Is Obama steering us toward Socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    It's called adhering to Keynesian Economic (Fiscal) Policy.
    You do not know what you are talking about.
    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I see. Well I guess that means it'll work.
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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

    Socialism is where the government owns and/or controls the means of producing and distributing weath, and redistributes weath through the welfare state.
    So then no country on earth is socialist according to your definition. No country has an economy that is entirely state-owned. So this thread is basically pointless, according to you.

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