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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

    Nationalizing banks

    Nationalizing healthcare



    yeah, it's a start.
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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

    I think it's something a little more serious that socialism. It's FDR style socialism again, which was a wonderful mix of fascism and socialism. And when it comes to nationalization of private business, look out. I wouldn't be surprised to see the government try to grab that one either. We're in for a bad ride...too bad the other side didn't offer anything different.
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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Depends on what kind of socialism you are talking about. Bush promoted socialism in the United States through neo-liberalization, and his methodologies catered to corporate socialism: bailouts, deregulation, increasing of free trade. I won't blame Bush for all the economic problems, but he was one President in a string of several who sent the United States down a deregulatory path.
    Deregulation did not cause the economic problems.

    In order to patch the economy, further infusions of money are needed. The economy would head toward a depression anyway without a stimulus package, and people would be paying even more as inflation increases.
    This doesn't even make sense. The porkulus package you support is exactly what will cause inflation and what will cause a depression.

    So although the average joe is having to shoulder the cost of the stimulus package, it is actually a small amount compared to the decades of deficit-based spending that has caused the current situation.

    In short, Americans now have to pay their bills.
    You say Americans now have to pay their bills, yet all this "stimulus" garbage did was push a trillion dollars more debt onto future generations

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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

    FDR ushered in Socialism.
    Obama is just another step down that aisle, one bigger than most.

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    Re: Is Obama steering us toward Socialism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Short answer: No. He is investing in Capitalism.
    LMFAO.

    With the shreds we were able to find out about Obama through off-script moments, tapes, and his books he revealed himself to be a socialist:

    He owns the most liberal voting record during his time in the Senate. Further left than an admitted socialist.
    His friends. Racist. Socialist.
    Associates. Terrorist. Crook.
    His upbringing (nothing to do with his Muslim father by the way).
    His activities before going to law school. Community organizing a'la Rules for Radikals... Saul Alinsky.
    The moments he was off-script and let his guard down. Spread. Guns. Religion. No preconditions.
    His scant, and highly selective voting record in the IL Senate.
    He pushed a law for infanticide hard in the IL Senate.

    Many, many indications he was and would remain a socialist.
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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    FDR ushered in Socialism.
    Obama is just another step down that aisle, one bigger than most.
    I think the Hoover damn has from a economic POV has been quite a success.

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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I think the Hoover damn has from a economic POV has been quite a success.
    Ok.... and?

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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

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    In order to patch the economy, further infusions of money are needed. The economy would head toward a depression anyway without a stimulus package, and people would be paying even more as inflation increases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defensor View Post
    This doesn't even make sense. The porkulus package you support is exactly what will cause inflation and what will cause a depression.
    It's an amazing thought process isn't it?
    You steal from the private sector, the section that creates jobs and spends cash, you steal from them... and then run it through the government bureaucracy (losing money along the way), and then you let 500 politically motivated people allocate the money where they believe it is best spent. Propping up losers. Paying back buddies. Giving people who don't pay taxes money... welfare checks.

    That ain't stimulus or plugging holes. Then again, I think those that voted for this bill are plugging about 300 million American holes.

    Some realize it, some don't, some will never realize what damage they voted into office.

    It's good the Republicans left the whole hole plugging operation to the Democrats. It's a start... (and then you hear something from the likes of Graham and you start losing hope all over again)
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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Ok.... and?
    It was a guberment project, socialism.

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    Re: Are Obama's Policies Ushering in Era of Socialism? [EDIT]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It was a guberment project, socialism.
    False premise. Not all government programs are socialism.
    And, even if the Hoover Dam WERE socialism, your response doesn't invalidate what I posted.

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