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    Re: UPDATE: Lawton teen films himself abusing cat, posts on YouTube

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I'm surprised and I will tell you why. I would have thought that allowing vigilantes to insinuate themselves into any case would run a high risk of tainting the evidence in that case to the point of making it impossible to prosecute it.
    Well, they do have video of the guy doing it, but he's wearing a mask.
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    Re: UPDATE: Lawton teen films himself abusing cat, posts on YouTube

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I'm surprised and I will tell you why. I would have thought that allowing vigilantes to insinuate themselves into any case would run a high risk of tainting the evidence in that case to the point of making it impossible to prosecute it.
    See my above post. But to expand upon yours, it's not tainted because they were not actively engaged as agents of law enforcement. Therefore there is nothing that was provided that was protected under the constitution in terms of what can be used as evidence in a court of law. Further, and I obviously don't have all the details, but from what is available there was no invasion of privacy here. It was a simple act of culling various internet resources and putting 2 and 2 together. That's more of a good Samaritan incident than an act of vigilantism. These people didn't track the kids down and restrain them or beat them or take punitive action against them. They simply led law officers down the electronic trail to this kids "laboratory."

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    Re: UPDATE: Lawton teen films himself abusing cat, posts on YouTube

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    Well, they do have video of the guy doing it, but he's wearing a mask.
    So he is wearing a mask, too? What happens when the defense attorney starts prosecuting the investigation, which demonstrably was handled by a vigilante internet group with a proclivity for internet bullying and other shenanigans?

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    Re: UPDATE: Lawton teen films himself abusing cat, posts on YouTube

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    So he is wearing a mask, too? What happens when the defense attorney starts prosecuting the investigation, which demonstrably was handled by a vigilante internet group with a proclivity for internet bullying and other shenanigans?
    The case is going to require much more than this video. All these internet sleuths did was give the cops a starting point. Investigative subpoenas, search warrants, and good police work will fill in the blanks. If the cops close this case properly the judge won't care what these guys did because nobody's rights were violated and the jury will be mortified by the video of the suspect torturing the animal. The video and the facebook entries were placed in the public domain, and the right to privacy disappears. One could argue inevitable discovery.

    If this guy they are looking at isn't the bad guy, the police investigation will clear him.
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    Re: UPDATE: Lawton teen films himself abusing cat, posts on YouTube

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    The case is going to require much more than this video. All these internet sleuths did was give the cops a starting point. Investigative subpoenas, search warrants, and good police work will fill in the blanks. If the cops close this case properly the judge won't care what these guys did because nobody's rights were violated and the jury will be mortified by the video of the suspect torturing the animal. The video and the facebook entries were placed in the public domain, and the right to privacy disappears. One could argue inevitable discovery.

    If this guy they are looking at isn't the bad guy, the police investigation will clear him.
    I think a good defense attorney could argue the lack of other suspects being looked at, the questionable character of their "good samaritans", etc.

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    Re: UPDATE: Lawton teen films himself abusing cat, posts on YouTube

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post

    DAMMIT... why did you have to show me that... Now I have another new thing to check you ass. DP, mayan forum, Digg, fazed, email, social network sites, craigslist rant and raves, camfrog, and... **** I have no life.
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    Re: UPDATE: Lawton teen films himself abusing cat, posts on YouTube

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    DAMMIT... why did you have to show me that... Now I have another new thing to check you ass. DP, mayan forum, Digg, fazed, email, social network sites, craigslist rant and raves, camfrog, and... **** I have no life.
    LOL, i was totally amazed by the board/site/wtf ever it is. If anyone thought the basement thread about MZ was hilarious, you haven't seen **** until you've been on /b/.
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    Re: UPDATE: Lawton teen films himself abusing cat, posts on YouTube

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    LOL, i was totally amazed by the board/site/wtf ever it is. If anyone thought the basement thread about MZ was hilarious, you haven't seen **** until you've been on /b/.
    True that. They are cruel ****ers.
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