What we can hope for are nations run by governments elected by the people. Freedom. Looking at Africa alone, that's a lot of work. A few centuries worth, though a domino effect throughout that vast, diverse continent would be nice... also Utopian.
Right.Heartbroken and torn, nothing but pain and suffering. Our goal shouldn't be to spread that, but to alleviate it. If we learned nothing from these atrocities, then we are doomed to repeat them as nothing more than ignorant monkeys unable to see the world around them.
Sometimes war is necessary.
Cleaning up the USSR after riding ourselves of The Axis might have saved us a lot of future problems.
We would have saved tens of millions of lives from Vladivostok to St. Petersburg and all over the Far East.
I think some actions by members of Congress would have had Lincoln sending them to the brig. Obama's "terrorizing civilians" was among the crap, but certainly not the most vile. Durban and Murtha top the lists and should have been sharing a cell.Why is it treasonous? You think that what the terrorists are doing is just and right.
It's not done for God.Yet your solution seems to be "prod them into action, then kill them all". I'm sure you make your god proud.
When someone declares war, then crush them into submission.
Make them submit to civilized society.
I find it interesting you invoke your god in excuse for war and murder.
I am not particularly religious.
He did say something about not being a coward. I think you'd find he would believe killing to defend yourself was just. I'm no religious scholar, it just makes sense, as does torture in a last ditch, dire, long bomb.It was my understanding that the Christian god was not a god of war,
We have to engage so long as there are those that seek our demise.Humans have a long history of war, but that doesn't mean we have to continue to engage in it or that we can't learn from it.
We can learn from it by identifying threats, being prepared.
Actually we should be more than prepared.
We should be armed to the teeth as a deterrent and so we can fight a multifaceted battle. You know, like the one we face against the cowards.
I agree. But it is also the solution for turning one time foes into allies. Iraq. Afghanistan. Germany. Japan. Italy. All brought to freedom through the sword.Your thought process is one that can only bring more war.
Well, that's perverse.You seem happy about it as well.
I'm a realist.
People aim to kill and maim Americans. Westerners.
Because of who we are and how we live.
Are we so far removed?Nice, I believe we used that "logic" in the dark ages as well. Way to advance.
People aim to kill and maim people because of their beliefs and way of life.
People with a mentality from the 7th century.
Did you know the first battle of the 21st century was lead on horseback?
I defined morality by being benevolent to the vanquished.Defining morality through victory...really?
That couldn;t have been too difficult to grasp? Non?
Come, come.Saved hundred of thousands of lives by taking hundred of thousands of lives. Doesn't sound like we netted out any.
The math equation isn't that difficult.
Johnny sends 800,000 men to fight the Japs.
175,000 are KIA.
85,000 are injured.
Millions are spent daily.
Johnny sends two bombs and kills the inhabitants of two small cities.
Cities which are not central to the functioning of the country.
They're used as examples of what awaits Tokyo and Osaka.
The enemy capitulates without one American GI of the 800,000 getting a scratch.
How many American families have a father they would otherwise be missing?
How many did the US net in saved lives and prevented injuries?
You live in some fantasy society that awaits people in 1,000 years if they are lucky.What may have to be done isn't always right. You confuse this principle.
And sometimes necessary.You think because we were forced that it is right and it is just, you can be forced to do evil and partake in immoral acts. War is such an evil.
War is horrible, war is evil.
Unless you like getting on your knees five times a day.
You might have made a terrific member of the NSDAP.
You seem willing to succumb to evil.
No.Perhaps my moral code is a little more steadfast than your own.
I think it's immoral to have an enemy roll your family, friends and neighbors.
I think it's immoral not to fight an enemy that wants to tear your heart out.
OK, they wouldn't do that. They'd only cut off your head.
Very moral of you.