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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Yep, just like any other country that doesn't have term limits.

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life. Maybe War With Colombia???

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'll fix that for you.

    Chavez wins vote to scrap term limits in Venezuela









    This is so telling how people soon forget the history of the world.
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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life. Maybe War With Colombia???

    War with Colombia seems only a stone-throw away, and so is his "Socialist-Revolution" for Venezuela.

    Gah, I hate Chavez.

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life. Maybe War With Colombia???

    The most entertaining aspect of the American Right's (and indeed the American "Left" as well), opposition to this referendum is that Chavez is a democratically elected leader, whereas the "elections" of George Bush are still regarded with raised eyebrows, particularly the former. Moreover, Chavez survived a recall attempt, whereas most analysts agree that Bush would not have been capable of doing so. But the "shining beacon of democracy" has no option to recall a president. It's particularly amusing that the abolition of term limits through a national referendum (which do not exist in the United States), is depicted as "anti-democratic," particularly when the issue in question would merely permit the Venezuelan citizenry to continue to elect a public official as many times as they desire.

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life. Maybe War With Colombia???

    at Hautey defending Chavez. I guess he did not get the liberal memo that he aint as cool as he used to be when he was bashing bush.
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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life. Maybe War With Colombia???

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    The most entertaining aspect of the American Right's (and indeed the American "Left" as well), opposition to this referendum is that Chavez is a democratically elected leader, whereas the "elections" of George Bush are still regarded with raised eyebrows, particularly the former. Moreover, Chavez survived a recall attempt, whereas most analysts agree that Bush would not have been capable of doing so. But the "shining beacon of democracy" has no option to recall a president. It's particularly amusing that the abolition of term limits through a national referendum (which do not exist in the United States), is depicted as "anti-democratic," particularly when the issue in question would merely permit the Venezuelan citizenry to continue to elect a public official as many times as they desire.
    You got it right, the people voted and they decided that if they like what he's doing they can keep voting him back into office. How is this not democratic? Oh right, because it's not the way we do it...

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Eh, who cares? The people get what they deserve. They want a dictator without term limits (yeah, no possibility of corruption there) then give 'em a dictator with no term limits. Just don't go giving them any of my money once they drive themselves into poverty.
    Affiant further sayeth not.

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    The big problem I think is disinterest in Latin American in general and lack of perspective. That of course you rightly criticize can Chavez for many thing. But what easily forgotten in the smearing him as the bad guy of Latin America is that confidence in democracy is less common in other Latin American countries and that the confidence in democracy have increased in Venezuela under Chavez.

    The Latinobarómetro poll | Democracy and the downturn | The Economist

    To the issue at hand it's common in many strong democracies to not have a term limit. That it works well in many cases the problem at hand here is that so much power is central around Chavez himself.

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life. Maybe War With Colombia???

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    The most entertaining aspect of the American Right's (and indeed the American "Left" as well), opposition to this referendum is that Chavez is a democratically elected leader, whereas the "elections" of George Bush are still regarded with raised eyebrows, particularly the former. Moreover, Chavez survived a recall attempt, whereas most analysts agree that Bush would not have been capable of doing so. But the "shining beacon of democracy" has no option to recall a president. It's particularly amusing that the abolition of term limits through a national referendum (which do not exist in the United States), is depicted as "anti-democratic," particularly when the issue in question would merely permit the Venezuelan citizenry to continue to elect a public official as many times as they desire.
    You assume to much. I'm not a fan of the American election process nor am I happy with any of our leadership.

    Populist democracy is dangerous and the people are foolish.

    I personally don't like to throw human lives around liberally and I don't generally call for their destruction.

    Cases like this are different though. I'm sick and tired of dumb asses making the tyranny of the majority ok through "democracy".

    The mass tyrants need to be reigned in.
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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life. Maybe War With Colombia???

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    The most entertaining aspect of the American Right's (and indeed the American "Left" as well), opposition to this referendum is that Chavez is a democratically elected leader, whereas the "elections" of George Bush are still regarded with raised eyebrows, particularly the former. Moreover, Chavez survived a recall attempt, whereas most analysts agree that Bush would not have been capable of doing so. But the "shining beacon of democracy" has no option to recall a president. It's particularly amusing that the abolition of term limits through a national referendum (which do not exist in the United States), is depicted as "anti-democratic," particularly when the issue in question would merely permit the Venezuelan citizenry to continue to elect a public official as many times as they desire.
    It is called impeachment. And it is you who wants to make this country to be "a shining beacon of democracy". There is no difference between Obama - and "Without it everything would be at risk — all the social programs, and everything he has done for the poor," - this is exactly what Obama run on with all the millions invested, given away to agitate the mob. Chavez exactly demonstrates how dangerious is the path of democracy Democrats have been pushing us to.

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