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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    My argument is that you are blowing the situation out of proportion, the same way that those who cried "oppression" did when RCTV was denied their license renewal.

    Why am I not surprised to see you supporting the 2nd coming of Adolf Hitler?

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Why am I not surprised to see you supporting the 2nd coming of Adolf Hitler?
    Jesus.H.Christ, my stupidity detector just exploded. You are really outdoing yourself lately Vader.
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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Why am I not surprised to see you supporting the 2nd coming of Adolf Hitler?
    He does seem to be following the same populism and state control agenda that Hitler did, but then again he is also a hardcore socialist. Nazism is a perfect example of Facism, which is different than Chavez's socialist dream world.
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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Why am I not surprised to see you supporting the 2nd coming of Adolf Hitler?
    We've had this discussion before. So far Chavez has not displayed himself as the next Hitler.

    In the end of our last discussion on another thread related to this, I even agreed that if this passed, caution and a watchful eye are what is needed on Chavez.

    But to say he is the next Hitler just because of this is premature and he has not done anything remotely the same so far as Hitler.

    There are many leaders of countries that have no term limits, that doesn't make them all Hitlers.

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    We've had this discussion before. So far Chavez has not displayed himself as the next Hitler.

    In the end of our last discussion on another thread related to this, I even agreed that if this passed, caution and a watchful eye are what is needed on Chavez.

    But to say he is the next Hitler just because of this is premature and he has not done anything remotely the same so far as Hitler.

    There are many leaders of countries that have no term limits, that doesn't make them all Hitlers.
    I personally agree that he isn't the next Hitler but I think he is the next dangerous and possibly murderous despot.
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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I personally agree that he isn't the next Hitler but I think he is the next dangerous and possibly murderous despot.
    When you have a leader that has no term limits, of course that is possible. However, we haven't seen anything so far to suggest that is happening or will happen.

    Always keep a watchful eye though and be cautious, that I have no problem with. I just think it is way to premature to say Chavez is the next dangerous or Hitlerish type leader yet.

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    When you have a leader that has no term limits, of course that is possible. However, we haven't seen anything so far to suggest that is happening or will happen.

    Always keep a watchful eye though and be cautious, that I have no problem with. I just think it is way to premature to say Chavez is the next dangerous or Hitlerish type leader yet.
    I think his control of the election and media at least hints at his future nastiness.
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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I think his control of the election and media at least hints at his future nastiness.
    even if it's not him, he's made it possible for the next guy. that's the stupid part. they like chavez so they don't mind seeing him be president-for-life, but they aren't thinking at all long-term.

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    even if it's not him, he's made it possible for the next guy. that's the stupid part. they like chavez so they don't mind seeing him be president-for-life, but they aren't thinking at all long-term.
    Thats the folly of man.

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I think his control of the election and media at least hints at his future nastiness.
    I'm not sure. Until recently I argued his control of the media was a great wrong but I was shown he does not actually control the media and I have no evidence that he does. One station that still reports on cable lost its license but I think that was simply due to many, many regulation floutings including the support of an unsuccessful coup.

    As for the removal of term limits I'd say most Western countries don't have them, Britain and Australia certainly don't, so that is hardly anything out of the ordinary.

    Where he is in reality unsavoury is his centralisation and his seeming will to stay in power for decades. but hell you could have even said the same about Maggie Thatcher.
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