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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    So your argument is what? That Chavez is not attempting to become the dictator of Venezuela for life and control the media in his country?
    My argument is that you are blowing the situation out of proportion, the same way that those who cried "oppression" did when RCTV was denied their license renewal.

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Chavez will not stop at this victory, you will see as time goes on that he will continue his socialist/communist leanings that could eventually usurp freedom in Venezuela. I don't think it's irresponsible to be cautious of events like these especially considering the proximity of Venezuela to the United States.

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    My argument is that you are blowing the situation out of proportion, the same way that those who cried "oppression" did when RCTV was denied their license renewal.
    I have? Please show me which comments I have made that "blow" the issue "out of proportion."

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by Radical Ron View Post
    Chavez will not stop at this victory, you will see as time goes on that he will continue his socialist/communist leanings that could eventually usurp freedom in Venezuela. I don't think it's irresponsible to be cautious of events like these especially considering the proximity of Venezuela to the United States.
    It is obvious only to those who refuse to wallow in denial or willful ignorance.

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life. Maybe War With Colombia???

    Quote Originally Posted by Radical Ron View Post
    Ummm, again. It's called Communism, it's stated aims are to overthrow all existing social conditions. (China) and Russia? Are you kidding, they are the biggest new Capitalists on the scene. They almost openly trying to intervene in the affairs of the CIS.
    So? They are not invading countries left, right and centre for ideological reasons.

    Do you finally comprehend what I'm saying or am I going to have to explain it again?
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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by Radical Ron View Post
    Chavez will not stop at this victory, you will see as time goes on that he will continue his socialist/communist leanings that could eventually usurp freedom in Venezuela. I don't think it's irresponsible to be cautious of events like these especially considering the proximity of Venezuela to the United States.
    Your not advocating caution, that would be a Conservative way of looking at the problem. You are advocating invading countries on the flimsiest of pretexts for ideological reasons which is a very liberal ideal.
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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life. Maybe War With Colombia???

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    So? They are not invading countries left, right and centre for ideological reasons.

    Do you finally comprehend what I'm saying or am I going to have to explain it again?
    What? What's the difference?! You just admitted they are doing what we are doing. We aren't invading countries left and right, the last invasion was in 2003. Six years ago.
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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Your not advocating caution, that would be a Conservative way of looking at the problem. You are advocating invading countries on the flimsiest of pretexts for ideological reasons which is a very liberal ideal.
    How so? Please elaborate....

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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life. Maybe War With Colombia???

    Quote Originally Posted by Radical Ron View Post
    What? What's the difference?! You just admitted they are doing what we are doing. We aren't invading countries left and right, the last invasion was in 2003. Six years ago.
    I admitted no such thing. They are not invading nations for ideological reasons.

    How liberal of you to think six years is a long time.

    How so? Please elaborate....
    Because humanitarian interventions based on ideological reasons like spreading democracy and bringing liberty are liberal in both the IR and regular sense. Conservative foreign policy is more realist in nature and based on national interest not such silly bollocks.
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    Re: Chavez now can reelect himself for life. Maybe War With Colombia???

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I admitted no such thing. They are not invading nations for ideological reasons.
    No but they are doing the same thing as the United States. Getting involved and trying to gather inteligence to assess future problems and events. That's what America's doing with Chavez. Did I ever say we were going to invade them because he won this election????

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    How liberal of you to think six years is a long time.
    If you are trying to offend me by calling me a liberal it's working.....now I have to go talk to my shrink again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Because humanitarian interventions based on ideological reasons like spreading democracy and bringing liberty are liberal in both the IR and regular sense. Conservative foreign policy is more realist in nature and based on national interest not such silly bollocks.
    Perhaps on your side of the pond. Here in America, it is very common for conservatives to push these agendas (i.e. Iraq) and it's pretty strange that such a smart guy like you would have forgotten something as monumental as.....I dunno, the Bush Administration.
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