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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    That is quite an ironic comment if you think about it.
    Especially when it's the people who are supposed to have a "higher standard" who start flaming

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It is just a freaking tennis player [one whom i have never even heard of]

    People need to chill and quit bitchin if a soverign country has refused to allow someone access to it's territory.
    If it makes anyone feel better, Israel can refuse a Arab tennis player
    Abu Dhabi's decision puts her at a competitive disadvantage vis a vis other players on the tour. Dubai lobbies heavily for international tournaments. They should follow international norms while hosting them or expect to lose said tournaments.

    As for your having never heard of her - it is irrelevant. She is a top-50 player and thus qualifies via her ranking.
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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    You are correct. I work in corporate business travel and visas get denied all the time, for whatever reason- mostly political. Many countries deny visas for someone who even has an Israeli stamp on their passport, we have to recommend they get a second passport to gain entry if they want to get in. It's pretty stupid and petty but it's the discretion of the country to allow entry if they require visas to get in.
    Fine. But once again, we are talking about a country that has been working hard to become the sports capital of the region and lobbies heavily for the right to host international sporting contests. They should be expected to uphold international standards, including the granting of visas. They will likely lose this tournament in the future, and as I have said earlier, Doha will be the big winner in all of this. They have allowed Peer to compete there in the past.

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    Peer broke barriers last year in Qatar when she was the first Israeli to play in a WTA Tour tournament in the Persian Gulf. But the UAE - locked in a rivalry with Qatar to host major sports events - could face setbacks if the WTA and other federations grow skittish of planning events with the prospect of Israeli athletes being blocked.
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    Dubai, 16 Feb. (AKI) - As the world's top tennis players began to taking part in the Dubai Tennis Championships, there was speculation that next year's tournament may be cancelled after a diplomatic dispute over the participation of Israeli tennis player, Shahar Peer.
    Doha is a fabulous host. They hosted the best Asian Games in history in 2006 (A performance Guangzhou will be very hard pressed to match next year) and host other international events and have not had this kind of controversy regarding Israeli athletes.
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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Especially when it's the people who are supposed to have a "higher standard" who start flaming
    Indeed, that was my meaning.
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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    how dare anyone criticize Israel, ever.

    Israel should be treated exactly like South Africa was.
    Why? Because Israel is an apartheid? Because the citizens of Israel suffer like the citizens of South Africa did? Need I really blast this pathetic attempt to brand Israel maliciously erroneous? You people and your labels. You disrespect everything just to try to criticize what you hate.

    You want to know why nothing gets fixed in this world? Because haters are too busy exaggerating the issues just to try and make a point. Problem is that this strips all credibility from the critics and protestors.

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And they US has banned people from entering the US... remember Cat Stevens? and in the US case it is a huge majority muslims...? The UK just banned "the" dutch politician from entering the UK because of his racist views.. Countries do it all the time. But in this case people are up in arms because it is a jew? Give me a break.

    The UAE can ban anyone they want from entering their territory, just like anyone else.
    Uh-oh..... The European cry for surface talk. Time to scratch the surface.....

    1) Cat Stevens..er..."Yusuf Islam" : According to a statement by Yusuf Islam, the man on the list was named "Youssef Islam", indicating that Yusuf Islam himself was not the suspected terrorism supporter. "No reason was ever given, but being asked to repeat the spelling of my name again and again, made me think it was a fairly simple mistake of identity. Rumors which circulated after made me imagine otherwise."

    2) Muslims immigration to America? "Immigration from these regions slowed considerably after Sept. 11. Fewer people were issued green cards and nonimmigrant visas. By 2003, the number of immigrants arriving from 22 Muslim countries had declined by more than a third. BUT starting in 2004, the numbers rebounded. The tally of people coming to live in the United States from Bangladesh, Turkey, Algeria and other Muslim countries rose by 20 percent, according to an analysis of Census Bureau data. BUT five years later, as the United States wrestles with questions of terrorism, civil liberties and immigration control, Muslims appear to be moving here again in surprising numbers, according to statistics collected by the Department of Homeland Security and the Census Bureau."

    So what do we have here? A European attempt to lie or deceive? Maybe just a slip of the tongue, because bashing the English speaking nations taste so good? Your example shows a man that was denied based on his name (terrorist watch list), for which he was later removed. And the immigration thing? Got a defense for that one? And a man not allowed to enter a nation, based on his racist ways, must have been quite obvious as to his intentions in life.

    But what I find tragically amusing is that somehow, you are able to compare the reasons these two individuals were denied entry to a case where an individual was denied entry based on...what? Being a Jew? Same thing?

    It's no wonder most of the European Jews were massacred off or run out in the twentieth century so easily and without very much fuss. You are all too busy creating excuses and finding ways to look away. From an Olympic tragedy to this event, the Arab world is more than prepared to keep a Jew down. Seems some Europeans and Arabs have something in common again.
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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Need I really blast this pathetic attempt to brand Israel maliciously erroneous?
    Oh, why wait for an answer......


    False claims are historical for Arabs when dealing with Israel and the West, but anything that smears the Jews (especially Isrealis) is welcome entertainment to the outside for many.

    So Israel is an apartheid like South Africa, huh?

    1) In a state practiciing apartheid, would Arab Muslims legislators wield veto power over anything?

    2) At only 20 percent of the population, would Arabs even be eligible for election if they squirmed under the thumb of apartheid?

    3) Would an apartheid state extend voting rights to women and the poor in local elections, which Israel did for the first time in the history of Palestinian Arabs?

    4) Would the vast majority of Arab Israeli citizens turn out to vote in national elections, as they've usually done?

    5) Would an apartheid state have several Arab political parties, as Israel does?

    6) Would the judiciary be free of political interferences? In the 2003 Israeli elections, two Arab parties found themselves disqualified for expressly supporting terrorism against the Jewish state. Israel's supreme court overturned both disqualifications.

    7) Would an apartheid state award its top literary prize to an Arab? Israel honored Emile Habibi in 1986.

    8) Would an apartheid state encourage Hebrew-speaking schoolchildren to learn Arabic?

    9) Would road signs throughout the land appear in both languages?

    10) Would an apartheid state be home to universities where Arabs and Jews mingle at will, or apartment blocks where they live side by side?

    11) Would an apartheid state bestow benefits and legal protections on Palestinians who live outside of Israel but work inside its borders?

    12) Would human rights organizations operate openly in an apartheid state? They do in Israel. In fact, every year the prime minister responds on the record to the report of Israel's leading human rights groups.

    13) Would an apartheid state's media debate the moral rectitude of national policies?



    You see, the joke here is how Arabs try their hardest to criticize and falsly accuse Israel of all these evil dastardly things. It's too bad they don't extend that same effort towards their own governments and ask why they can't be treated as Muslims are in Israel. They are too busy focusing on the betrayed that they are blind to who is doing the betraying. And sad part of this grand joke is how some westerners flock and gravitate towards anything that might criticize Israel as they claim to actually care for Palestinians. No matter the lie or exaggeration, always you will find the same type of figure seeking to get in a dig.

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    There are countries that won't allow Palestinians in either... let's not paint Israel as the only victim here. The heated political nature of the conflict in the West bank has polarized opinions all over the world. Even some governments have taken sides when it comes to their entry policies. We should not be surprised.

    Think back to WWII... people entering nations with German passports were heavily scrutinized, and many not even allowed entry. The same was true of the Japanese. Anytime there is a well-known war, people take sides, and governments are comprised of people too.

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    As for your having never heard of her - it is irrelevant. She is a top-50 player and thus qualifies via her ranking.
    I don't care what her ranking is, i don't even care if she continues to get refused.
    It is not on my list of things to whine about. You'd think someone died. It is just ONE tennis player. Her being Israeli means nothing to me, i wouldn't care if it was a British tennis player refused.

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    this much fuss over state sanctioned racism
    Oh well, i would bet alot there is some form of racism and predjudices within every government in this world. That is life.

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