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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    You're exactly right ludahai.

    But some folks here are willing to excuse this abysmal behavior on the part of UAE simply because an Ms. Peer is Israeli.

    If this woman was from Spain, Mr. EU wouldn't be so forgiving.

    Hypocrite and asshole.
    Listen, there is no excuse for such behaviour I agree, but it is their freaking right, just as it is Israel's right to imprison dissidents, ban jews critical of the Israeli state from entering Israel. That TOO is there no excuse for and yet you and others are not up in uproar over that?

    You accuse me and others for being hypocrites and assholes? How about looking in the mirror... Is it not a bit hypocritical to post this story, and yet not the other situations when people have been denied visa to enter a country? Is it not hypocritical to post a story who's intent was clearly to stir up sympathy for the poor Israeli against the mean old Arab country, and yet claim that religion and race has nothing to do about it? Again, why is it you find this story so important over random person being denied entry to any country on the planet?

    Also if she was from Spain, UK, France, Germany or whatever EU country, then yes the EU would be critical which is their right. But the EU knows, just as everyone but a few people on these boards, that not giving a visa on whatever grounds, is a a daily occurrence all over the world. Like it or not, we do not allow people into countries based on who they are, and where they are from.. big freaking deal. You do know that the EU has most likely denied visa's to people from the UAE too right?

    I saw the interview on CNN of the WTA President. It is always funny how a man that claims that sports should be non-political goes on international TV and makes it political. On top of that, he admitted that they had known of the possibility for over a year and had been working on the issue. Now that the UAE has said no, which is their right, then all of a sudden he and his people make a story out of it? He even admitted that it was far from the first time someone on the WTA and ATP tour were denied visa to a country where there was a tournament.. so I ask again.. WHY is this case suddenly a "BIG" thing?

    Could it be just another propaganda attack in the never ending war between Israel and the Arab world? Another pathetic attempt to claim "anti-Semitism" because the person "wronged" comes from Israel? You can deny it as much as you want, but that is how it has come off, even though you never used the words.

    So let me summarize.. Yes it is wrong for the UAE to say no to this player, but it is their right to do so, just like every other country does it on a daily basis.
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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, since there is nothing comparable between Israel and how South Africa was. This would be a ridiculous comparison.
    Unless you're a Palestinian living in Gaza. Then the comparison to apartheid might seem pretty reasonable.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post

    So let me summarize.. Yes it is wrong for the UAE to say no to this player, but it is their right to do so, just like every other country does it on a daily basis.
    Furthermore the denial of this is the product of knee-jerk American rabid Zionism which inevitably trumps anyone else's rights.

    Conservative Americans, many Jewish Americans and Israelis do not believe in a world where criticizing Israel is a allowed.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    Furthermore the denial of this is the product of knee-jerk American rabid Zionism which inevitably trumps anyone else's rights.

    Conservative Americans, many Jewish Americans and Israelis do not believe in a world where criticizing Israel is a allowed.
    Knee jerk this. You belong in Philadelphia.

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    If I expressed sympathy for some black guy that was beaten by the cops and was then called a "race traitor" by a white neo-nazi for having those sympathies we'd all roundly denounce the nazi. And rightly so.

    And yet many of my Jewish friends who dare to break with the orthodox blind support of Israel by the Jewish community are routinely called "self-hating Jews" and "fake Jews"- sometimes, amazingly enough, not even by other jews but conservative American gentiles.

    It's the same thing.

    But I doubt they're given the same scorn that the nazi would.
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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    you know what, I'll even respond to the dig about Philly.

    I've been to Tel Aviv.

    Have you ever heard of mass transit?

    Or building that aren't stucco crap?

    Or how about a skyline?
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Of course not, and I wasn't addressing this. I was merely addressing your attempt to make this out as a case of anti-semitism.

    It is a case of anti-semtism. Quit making excuses for the brainwashed asshats in Saudi.

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I think she was denied entry because she is Israeli, not because she is Jewish. You are aware that there is a difference between the two, correct?
    In this case, I do not see a distinction. She is a representative of Israel therefore it isn't a huge stretch to believe that she is Jewish.

    Clearly, what occurred is a hate crime perpatrated by a nation of racist anti-semetic bigots.

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    avoiding the fact that Arabs are also semites (so they're probably not anti-semetic, but anti-Jewish) how would your "all critics of Israel are anti-Jewish" theory adapt to the existence of anti-Zionist and anti-Israel American Jews, of which there are plenty?
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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Listen, there is no excuse for such behaviour I agree, but it is their freaking right, just as it is Israel's right to imprison dissidents, ban jews critical of the Israeli state from entering Israel. That TOO is there no excuse for and yet you and others are not up in uproar over that?
    And now it is the right of the WTA to pull their license to host a WTA tournament, which is something that may happen from next year unless the Abu Dhabi government repents and sees the error of its ways.

    Also if she was from Spain, UK, France, Germany or whatever EU country, then yes the EU would be critical which is their right. But the EU knows, just as everyone but a few people on these boards, that not giving a visa on whatever grounds, is a a daily occurrence all over the world. Like it or not, we do not allow people into countries based on who they are, and where they are from.. big freaking deal. You do know that the EU has most likely denied visa's to people from the UAE too right?
    For for a professional athlete who was qualified to compete in a tournament that the government of the country lobbied heavily to host on an annual basis as Dubai hosts this event?

    I saw the interview on CNN of the WTA President. It is always funny how a man that claims that sports should be non-political goes on international TV and makes it political. On top of that, he admitted that they had known of the possibility for over a year and had been working on the issue. Now that the UAE has said no, which is their right, then all of a sudden he and his people make a story out of it? He even admitted that it was far from the first time someone on the WTA and ATP tour were denied visa to a country where there was a tournament.. so I ask again.. WHY is this case suddenly a "BIG" thing?
    I am sure they had been working on the visa issue, but apparently the denial only became "final" very recently. As for making it political, the UAE government made it political with the denial of the visa. The WTA president was merely taking them to task for it and I am sure noting that this could result in the loss of the tournament - just as Venezuela lost IBAF sanction for a youth world championship last year for denial of visas to Asia's baseball champions because they happened to come from a country they don't like. Simply pathetic that you would somehow excuse such behavior.
    Could it be just another propaganda attack in the never ending war between Israel and the Arab world? Another pathetic attempt to claim "anti-Semitism" because the person "wronged" comes from Israel? You can deny it as much as you want, but that is how it has come off, even though you never used the words.

    So let me summarize.. Yes it is wrong for the UAE to say no to this player, but it is their right to do so, just like every other country does it on a daily basis.[/QUOTE]
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