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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    If someone can be banned from WTA competition because they are Jewish what is next?
    I think she was denied entry because she is Israeli, not because she is Jewish. You are aware that there is a difference between the two, correct?

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    You are dismissing one wrong by pointing out other wrongs.

    According to your logic, every wrong can be minimized simply because there is nothing new under the sun.

    A fairly pathetic and shallow worldview.
    No I aint dismissing one wrong with another wrong. You are claiming that his is some kind of unheard off event and of course it being the UAE, a muslim country, and the person in question being an Israeli, then you suddenly blow it up as something it is not. Not to mention you are being hypocritical.

    On one hand, we have the sovereignty of nations to do as they please when it comes to letting people into their country on what ever reason they see fit.

    On the other hand we have the very real sense of justice that no one should be barred from any place purely based on race, sex, religion and what not. But newsflash, in the real world that happens all the time.

    Lets look at the ways countries bar people. The US has the no fly list, which is highly based on one religion.. Islam. It also bars people with HIV. Europe bars often people with criminal records from entering Europe. Israel does not allow everyone that wants to goto Israel in.

    Like it or not, barring this tennis player based on that she is Israeli, is no different than the US barring HIV positive people from entering or Norway saying no to Snoop Dog or Israel denying muslims to return to the west bank after marrying someone from Syria. They have their reasons so be it and accept it, we do not live in a world where freedom of movement is universal for everyone regardless of sex, race, religion or a number of other criteria.
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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I think she was denied entry because she is Israeli, not because she is Jewish. You are aware that there is a difference between the two, correct?
    Does Ms. Peer formulate and enact Israeli policy?

    Should either religion or nationality be a qualifier in athletic competition?

    Isn't the world of sports supposed to be a neutral arena?

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Should either religion or nationality be a qualifier in athletic competition?
    Of course not, and I wasn't addressing this. I was merely addressing your attempt to make this out as a case of anti-semitism.

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Of course not, and I wasn't addressing this. I was merely addressing your attempt to make this out as a case of anti-semitism.
    Exactly, this whole thing reaks of an attempt to make the issue about her "nationhood or religion", in this case Israel and being a jew (most likely) and totally ignoring the fact that countries bar people for all sort of reasons, valid and not, on a daily basis.. INCLUDING the state of Israel. Why suddenly the uproar about this tennis player (who btw, is the double partner of the best Danish female tennis player), and not about when Israel, the UK, France, Germany, Japan, China, US, Canada and so on, deny access to their territory because of they feel like it?
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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Of course not, and I wasn't addressing this. I was merely addressing your attempt to make this out as a case of anti-semitism.
    I responded directly to what PeteUK had posted...

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    But in this case people are up in arms because it is a jew?
    Perhaps you can't read?

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Well, a reason hasn't been given yet, and based on the recent conflicts it a reasonable guess to say that she was denied entry because she's Israeli. Of course, it's important to keep in mind that it's a guess, and not necessarily the truth. So Tashah's statements stand (aside from the jew reference), provided that she qualify them with "If it is because she is Israeli..."

    Perhaps you can't read?
    I can read perfectly well; he basically said the same thing that I said.
    Last edited by Khayembii Communique; 02-15-09 at 02:53 PM.

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I can read perfectly well; he basically said the same thing that I said.
    Well then.

    Don't imply that I interjected religion into this thread.

    I didn't. PeteUK did that. Scroll up.

    It's not my fault he birthed a Freudian slip.
    Last edited by Tashah; 02-15-09 at 03:11 PM. Reason: sp

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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Well then.

    Don't imply that I interjected religion into this thread.

    I didn't. PeteUK did that. Scroll up.

    It's not my fault he birthed a Freudian slip.
    All I stated, is that she is most likely a Jew, because she is from Israel. And you did interject religion into the thread by posting this at all. You posted it because an Israeli was banned from the UAE and alone there you have already interjected religion into the subject, because the whole freaking conflict is based on religion. So dont try hiding behind some PC "I did not say anything about religion" when anyone can see that your whole surmise was to point out that yet again was an Israeli some how "wronged" by an Arab nation and no matter how you spin it, it is jew against muslim yet again.

    But enough of this bs thread.
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    Re: UAE bars entry for Israeli tennis player

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    All I stated, is that she is most likely a Jew, because she is from Israel. And you did interject religion into the thread by posting this at all. You posted it because an Israeli was banned from the UAE and alone there you have already interjected religion into the subject, because the whole freaking conflict is based on religion. So dont try hiding behind some PC "I did not say anything about religion" when anyone can see that your whole surmise was to point out that yet again was an Israeli some how "wronged" by an Arab nation and no matter how you spin it, it is jew against muslim yet again.

    But enough of this bs thread.
    The only bs here is from you Pete.

    Let's look at it again in chronological order shall we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And they US has banned people from entering the US... remember Cat Stevens? and in the US case it is a huge majority muslims...? The UK just banned "the" dutch politician from entering the UK because of his racist views.. Countries do it all the time. But in this case people are up in arms because it is a jew? Give me a break.
    Let's see. You mentioned muslims, racist, and jew. You interjected three things right there in Post #2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Shahar Peer is a world class tennis player who competes in every major WTA tournament.

    If someone can be banned from WTA competition because they are Jewish what is next? Banning the Williams sisters because they are black? Banning Sania Mirza because she is Muslim? Banning Raphael Nadal because he is left-handed?

    Jeesh. Some of the lame crap you come up with is simply unbelievable.
    In response to your Post #2, I mentioned Jewish, black, and Muslim in Post #5.

    If anyone is trying tohere Pete, it is clearly you.
    Last edited by Tashah; 02-15-09 at 04:09 PM.

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