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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    You continue to neglect to address my point.

    If you want to discuss the issue ( ), there you go.
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    On the other hand, it always makes me giggle when people pop out of the woodwork to spank on Islam for this kind of thing.

    I've lost count of the number of times I've read in the news about a husband killing his wife after he catches her cheating, right here in the USA.

    How about the thirst in some parts of this country for blood when it comes to capital punishment?

    I can't imagine the horror of having my head forcibly removed from my body, but for crying out loud man has been killing man since the dawn of, well, man. This isn't religious, this is visceral.

    You continue to neglect to address my point. .
    Typing an absurd is not making a point. Difficulties one may have answering the absurd is not the same as neglecting a point.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    If you want to discuss the issue ( ), there you go. .
    It has been pointed to you and ignored by you that

    the most simple thing is that people commit horrific crimes all the time. Psychos, serial killers, criminals, etc.

    The simplest thing is that Muslims do not mind such crimes, and such crimes are not persecuted or denounced in many Muslim countries and/or by the essential part or may be the overwhelming majority of Muslim clergy blossoming in Muslim and other countries, - including the US and the Western Europe, when such crimes are persecuted and denounced by any other civilized human being, - Christian, or Jewish or whatever.


    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    It wasn't that long ago that black men were being hung in the United States for, well, being black men.
    It has been pointed to you that except for psychos, serial killers, criminals, etc. they did not hung or kill the black man for being black in the United States, even blacks did not kill the black man for being black in Africa, and even Muslim couldn’t imagine such an absurd as killing or beheading the black man for being black.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    We're a long way from holding the high ground on civil rights and equal treatment.
    Those who equate our civil rights and treatment with those of Muslim societies lack any orienteer in reality. You not, but we are holding high grounds.





    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Additionally, why do you (and other people who insist on demonizing Islam) persist in mistaking Islam and tribal culture? .
    It was pointed many times that http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1057927252


    Stating facts about Islam or anything else does not mean demonizing Islam or anything else. People who try to impose that it is not Islam but tribal culture of some unnamed and hypothetical tribes do not make a little of sense, because it has been pointed many times that this culture of Islam blossoms not only in unnamed and hypothetical rural tribal areas, but right here in the US, and in Europe and everywhere where there are societies of Muslims.


    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    This kind of thing didn't start with Islam. It predated Islam. .
    Islam just has been clinging at it, when other 2 religions has been always trying to overcome it in their societies and they has been setting an example for Pagans and other tribes, - even atheists try to pretend that they agree with the very base of the 2 religions which excludes such barbarities.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Bull****.

    This is the same idiotic logic that brought us the so called "hate crimes" reasoning. Honor killings are part of the broad domestic violence problem. They are not a separate issue at all. Violence committed against family members by family members is domestic violence regardless of the reason behind it. Muslims hide behind religion to justify their actions, others hide behind other moronic excuses.

    I don't care how many titles this woman has, her reasoning is as flawed as the "hate crimes" reasoning that would have us believe that such crimes are worse than other similar crimes. The end result is the same, is it not?
    Yes, the end result is the same, when a policeman kills a criminal and when a criminal kills a policeman – we have a dead man as the end result. Nice spin.


    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    That said, I do realize that honor killings are a problem in some parts of the Muslim world.

    Just as they were a big problem in some parts of the Catholic world (mainly Southern Italy and parts of South America). Courts were reluctant to inflict too severe a punishment on the men who committed these acts and often excused it as a "crime of passion". As if the fact that you love someone enough to kill them if they leave you is any sort of excuse, but what do I know. ?
    It would be a matter of honor to provide some references that would allow to equate problems of the Catholic world with problems of the Muslim world and to prove the same wide approval or indifference of the Catholic Clergy as we observe in Muslim clergy, - as well as to equate laws and actions of authorities of Italy and South America with laws and actions of Muslim authorities in Muslim countries. It is like SgtRocks has honor to provides references that may be cross checked. http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...-violence.html

    But it has been proven so many times that posters who bring Christians and catholics into any post where Muslims are discussed and who go into an endless spin trying to equate teachings, traditions, history and actions of Christians with teachings, traditions, history and actions of Muslims, who cast a blame on the West and the US for Jihad, - that these individuals do not have any idea or feeling of honor and morality.



    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Anyway, these crimes became much less common once the justice system started dealing with these murderers and abusers in a much more just way. No more "crime of passion" excuses, they got their ass sent to jail for a very long time.
    According to the Christian tradition circumstances of a crime are always considered by all courts in civilized countries. Provided that this Muslim – if he is in those countries - commits the crime “of passion” or has anything else to soften jurors and judges he would be given the same sentence as others. Provided that the crime has been a part of his culture and he attempts to pursue these parts of his culture in other countries and the crime had be premeditated, no reasonable judge would allow to treat a premeditated crime as a ‘’crime of passion”.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    The same thing will have to happen for anything to change in the Muslim culture. When Muslim society as a whole sees these crimes for the barbaric acts they are, then things will change.

    THIS IS EXACTLY HAS BEEN THE MAIN POINT OF SGTROCK OR MYSLELF OR ANY OTHER REASONABLE PERSON.

    As if there would be killing of blacks by white supremacists for being blacks people not only ring all bells in each and every case but people also must condemn the teaching and ideology and clubs of white supremacists not allowing any spread the ideology in our society. As if there is Pastor Wright people not only should ring all the bells for each and every case but we should condemn the very idea and teachings and the club where black Christians are announced to be special or different from whites, - in the same way people should ring all bells in all cases of Muslim killings and condemn the teachings and ideology which leads to it and people should stand against its spread in our society, as people should stand against white supremacists or black pastor Wrights. Of course the spread of Muslim traditions is more troubling than the old sores today…Of course I am speaking about people who have honor and moral standings. People who allow excuses and spins for either kind of cannibals are not different from cannibals themselves. And they keep on coming here on DP, one after another…

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    THIS IS EXACTLY HAS BEEN THE MAIN POINT OF SGTROCK OR MYSLELF OR ANY OTHER REASONABLE PERSON


    I'll reply to the rest of that when I'm done ing.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    You came over with the same laugh, you have continued with the same laugh, how one can expect you to stop?

    OK I see it is laugh #1,301.

    I am trying to portrait you

    http://thesituationist.files.wordpre...orangutang.jpg
    I am still waiting for the same laugh # next.

    I bet you will not stop laughing.

    No word can have an effect on the mood of this guy.
    http://thesituationist.files.wordpre...orangutang.jpg

    It has been 22 minutes of pure laugh. I am not even sure if this guyhttp://thesituationist.files.wordpre...orangutang.jpg

    can keep up with you.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    I read this:

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    You came over with the same laugh, you have continued with the same laugh, how one can expect you to stop?
    . . . and I see this:

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    Good-night, New York!
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    You came over with the same laugh, you have continued with the same laugh, how one can expect you to stop?

    OK I see it is laugh #1,301.

    I am trying to portrait you

    http://thesituationist.files.wordpre...orangutang.jpg
    I am still waiting for the same laugh # next.

    I bet you will not stop laughing.

    No word can have an effect on the mood of this guy.
    http://thesituationist.files.wordpre...orangutang.jpg

    It has been 22 minutes of pure laugh. I am not even sure if this guyhttp://thesituationist.files.wordpre...orangutang.jpg

    can keep up with you.
    Wow, you really like Orangutans...
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I read this:



    . . . and I see this:



    Good-night, New York!
    You certainly beat this guy

    http://thesituationist.files.wordpre...orangutang.jpg

    as he sleeps at night.

    BTW, I know you wouldn't hear through the laughter noises you make, but I will bring to the attention of the mods that they have not banned you for making frivolous ‘’quotes’’ and thus they have proven that they have no sense of basic fairness.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    You certainly beat this guy

    http://thesituationist.files.wordpre...orangutang.jpg

    as he sleeps at night.

    BTW, I know you wouldn't hear through the laughter noises you make, but I will bring to the attention of the mods that they have not banned you for making frivolous ‘’quotes’’ and thus they have proven that they have no sense of basic fairness.
    Good luck with that.
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Wow, you really like Orangutans...
    I would never be able to figure out the labyrinths of your mind or their minds…. It is like asking one of these guys http://thesituationist.files.wordpre...orangutang.jpg

    –‘What do you mean?”

    Should I ask you?

    One should not violate basic sense of Nature.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    I would never be able to figure out the labyrinths of your mind or their minds…. It is like asking one of these guys http://thesituationist.files.wordpre...orangutang.jpg

    –‘What do you mean?”

    Should I ask you?

    One should not violate basic sense of Nature.
    Who is violating nature? I simply observed that you have a soft spot for Orangutans.
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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