"Yes, but are you a Protestant atheist or a Catholic atheist?".- Northern Irish joke
I'll take it a step further. If it comes down to survival. Extinction as a culture, religion, way of life, etc... extinction as a people and descent into what we consider barbarism and slavery like your religion, IslamInstead you have gone off on a rant about God knows what.
Another Muslim conspiracy no doubt.
If your choices come down to that or genocidal warfare against your enemy, what is your choice? Genocide can happen in many ways and it doesn't have to occur with guns, nukes, etc. If in 100 years, there is no religion in the UK but Islam. The Bible doesn't exist, only the Koran. There is no trial by jury, only an Imam and Sharia law. History other than Islamic history doesn't exist. The cathedrals and churches that aren't pulled down are turned into mosques. Is that not a form of genocide?
I just wanted to post in this thread because I think there is a correlation between Islam and violence. I can't find the quote now, but I think Reza Aslan said once "Islam has a problem with terror". These are not isolated incidences, but a correlation between the culture and ideas or whatever it is. I'm not saying that all Muslims are violent, but what I'm saying is that there is a significant fraction who are and you can make a correlation from it.
As I've said elsewhere, it's not so much that Christians suddenly had an awakening and became more humane and accepting. It's that its elders and institutions steadily lost political power, until they had to learn to live with the world around them.
Also, I don't think there's a source on the planet which could reliably back up your assertion that a significant fraction of Muslims are violent. Feel free to prove me wrong.
Can't wait to hear what Opteron's bull**** definition of "significant fraction" is.
Islamic terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and try to tell me that 'there aren't anymore violent Islamists than in any other religion'.
Last edited by Opteron; 07-24-10 at 11:13 PM.
You are continuing to ignore my point about how this isn't about Islam, so much as it is about a religion having political power.
Wait, let me answer my own question: No.
Last edited by TacticalEvilDan; 07-25-10 at 03:10 PM.
Islamic terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is significant, there's not much point in responding to you.
Nevertheless, if your whole counterpoint requires a definition of the term, we can say that a significant fraction is a number statistically significant, or its a number of terrorist involved people that is greater than the average of other religions. If you require a number, we can say its greater than 50% of the average of other religions, even double. It doesn't even really matter because there are many more terrorist involved organizations in Islam than any other religions, the exact number won't matter too much.
Hell, if you compare modern Islam to Christianity at its height, you'd probably find that politically powerful Christianity is a hell of a lot more violent than modern Islam -- and that rather than making Christianity look bad, it makes my point.