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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I believe that religious go through stages of development, and that eventually, Islam will have a reformation. Let me give you a couple of examples:

    1) Christianity is about 1,000 older than Islam. 1,000 years ago, beheadings were common. Beheading was one of the favorite tools of Edward Longshanks, and it was done in the name of Christ. During the Inquisition, millions were put to death. In the Middle Ages, the burning of witches was a common occurance. You don't see hardly any of this practiced today because Christianity has matured.

    2) Judaism - Under Mosaic law, stoning to death is expressly prescribed for women who commit adultery, and for many other "crimes" too. You do not see Jews stoning women to death any more, because Judaism also matured.

    In just about every religion, there comes a time where zealots rule, and after a while, the religion matures, and the zealots are no more. Now the Islamists have the zealots. Eventually, they will also go the way of the dodo bird, as Islam rids itself of the wackos. Don't expect it to happen overnight, though. It took hundreds of years for Christianity to rid itself of its own wackos. Some of them still exist, but have no power to do what they would like. Government plays a role in that. Eventually, expect many Mideast nations to reign in their wackos the same way we reigned ours in.

    This is just my belief on this. That is all.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife



    Assiya Hassan and her husband Muzzammil Hassan
    Moderate muslims by all accounts. She asked for a divorce so he cut her head off.

    The Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences has determined that over ninety percent of Pakistani wives have been struck, beaten, or abused sexually — for offenses on the order of cooking an unsatisfactory meal. Others were punished for failing to give birth to a male child. Dominating their women by violence is a prerogative Muslim men cling to tenaciously. In Spring 2005, when the East African nation of Chad tried to institute a new family law that would outlaw wife beating, Muslim clerics led resistance to the measure as un-Islamic.

    Why do things like this happen?

    Because Islamic clerics worldwide have spoken approvingly of wife-beating
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    SgtRock, I appreciate the use of based soucres which hopelessly confuse tribal tradition with Islamic tenets as much as the next guy, but for some reason you have yet to respond to the following:

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I've lost count of the number of times I've read in the news about a husband killing his wife after he catches her cheating, right here in the USA.

    How about the thirst in some parts of this country for blood when it comes to capital punishment?

    I can't imagine the horror of having my head forcibly removed from my body, but for crying out loud man has been killing man since the dawn of, well, man. This isn't religious, this is visceral.
    Any thoughts?
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Source: The Buffalo News
    Date: 2-14-2009 (Valentines Day)



    Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife : City & Region : The Buffalo News

    Well it appears Mr Hassan proved that muslim stereotypes are not so far fetched. Another Backward POS.
    A Chinese dude has done it too, you didn't create a thread about him
    7s7: Monde - Il décapite et mange sa victime dans un autocar (370411)
    (beheaded someone in a bus and ate him)

    A Greek dude has done it too, you didn't create a thread about him
    7s7: Monde - Il décapite sa femme et se promène avec sa tête (368076)
    (beheaded his wife and walked around with her head)

    A German dude has done it too, you didn't create a thread about him
    7s7: Insolite - Il décapite une amie, incendie son appartement et meurt en cavale (178386)
    (beheaded his friend and burnt the house)

    A Bulgarian dude has done it too, you didn't create a thread about him
    http://www.lameuse.be/actualite/fil_...s-681801.shtml
    (beheaded his two sons in the middle of the street and burnt the house)

    An Israeli dude has done it too, you didn't create a thread about him
    Israel Infos Un homme décapité à Petah Tikva

    You don't talk about the Chinese/German/Greek/Bulgarian/Jewish backwarded and violent cultures that have to stop comminting such crimes. That's funny.

    Fortunately, I see that the other members of this forum don't make the same amalgam.
    Last edited by bub; 02-17-09 at 07:26 PM.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I believe that religious go through stages of development, and that eventually, Islam will have a reformation. Let me give you a couple of examples:

    1) Christianity is about 1,000 older than Islam. 1,000 years ago, beheadings were common. Beheading was one of the favorite tools of Edward Longshanks, and it was done in the name of Christ. During the Inquisition, millions were put to death. In the Middle Ages, the burning of witches was a common occurance. You don't see hardly any of this practiced today because Christianity has matured.

    2) Judaism - Under Mosaic law, stoning to death is expressly prescribed for women who commit adultery, and for many other "crimes" too. You do not see Jews stoning women to death any more, because Judaism also matured.

    In just about every religion, there comes a time where zealots rule, and after a while, the religion matures, and the zealots are no more. Now the Islamists have the zealots. Eventually, they will also go the way of the dodo bird, as Islam rids itself of the wackos. Don't expect it to happen overnight, though. It took hundreds of years for Christianity to rid itself of its own wackos. Some of them still exist, but have no power to do what they would like. Government plays a role in that. Eventually, expect many Mideast nations to reign in their wackos the same way we reigned ours in.

    This is just my belief on this. That is all.
    I agree with you but wanted to correct a common historical mistake.

    During the Inquisition "millions" were not put to death. Even the Spanish Inquisition (the most notorious) had around 3 to 5000 people actually put to death. Documented executions of the Inquisition pale in comparison to the 150,000 documented witch burnings elsewhere in Europe over the same centuries as you stated.

    If they had killed millions, most of the total populations of western and eastern Europe would have been killed off.

    OK. Carry on.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Back in 2004 when Mr Hassan launced his station it was all over the media including major newspapers, various liberal networks such as NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN. The ultral progressive NPR did a there piece on Mr Hassan. Could someone please explain why the mainstream media is not picking up this story? Is it because it dosn't fit there agenda?
    I think you know the answer to that question.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

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    While Muslim leaders have urged against applying cultural stereotypes to the crime, advocates for women linked the killing to attitudes in Muslim societies.

    “This was apparently a terroristic version of honor killing, a murder rooted in cultural notions about women’s subordination to men,” said Marcia Pappas, New York State president of the National Organization for Women.

    She decried the scant national media attention paid to the story, which broke the same day as the commuter plane crash that killed 50 people in Clarence.

    While domestic violence affects all cultures, Muslim women find it harder to break the silence about it because of a stigma, she said.

    “Too many Muslim men are using their religious beliefs to justify violence against women,” she said.

    After episodes of domestic violence, Aasiya Hassan, 37, filed for divorce Feb. 6 and obtained an order of protection barring her husband from their Orchard Park home, her lawyer, Corey Hogan, said.

    She and her husband both worked at Bridges TV, a satellite- distributed news and opinion channel. They launched the station in 2004 in an effort to counter images of Muslim violence and extremism.

    Nadia Shahram, a matrimonial lawyer in Williamsville, said that some Muslim men consider divorce a dishonor on their family.
    Possibility of 'honor killing' mulled in Orchard Park slaying : Home: The Buffalo News

    Remember, Mr. Hassan was considered to be a moderate muslim who just happens to beat his wife.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Not interested in a deeper discussion of the issues at hand, eh SgtRock? Sticking to the reliable stand-bys of villifying Islam?

    Oh well.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Not interested in a deeper discussion of the issues at hand, eh SgtRock? Sticking to the reliable stand-bys of villifying Islam?

    Oh well.
    I do not have to villify Islam muslims are doing a damn good job of it. And besides my main concern is human rights. In particular the rights of muslim women who are suffering and dying. And before you ask, yes I am concerned with violence against all women not just muslim women. Laila is a muslim women who used to work at a center for battered muslim women and she approves of my stance on this issue. Do you really want to discuss this issue or are you intrested in discrediting me by attempting to prove that I am an islamophobe?
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    A Chinese dude has done it too, you didn't create a thread about him
    7s7: Monde - Il décapite et mange sa victime dans un autocar (370411)
    (beheaded someone in a bus and ate him)

    A Greek dude has done it too, you didn't create a thread about him
    7s7: Monde - Il décapite sa femme et se promène avec sa tête (368076)
    (beheaded his wife and walked around with her head)

    A German dude has done it too, you didn't create a thread about him
    7s7: Insolite - Il décapite une amie, incendie son appartement et meurt en cavale (178386)
    (beheaded his friend and burnt the house)

    A Bulgarian dude has done it too, you didn't create a thread about him
    http://www.lameuse.be/actualite/fil_...s-681801.shtml
    (beheaded his two sons in the middle of the street and burnt the house)

    An Israeli dude has done it too, you didn't create a thread about him
    Israel Infos Un homme décapité à Petah Tikva

    You don't talk about the Chinese/German/Greek/Bulgarian/Jewish backwarded and violent cultures that have to stop comminting such crimes. That's funny.

    Fortunately, I see that the other members of this forum don't make the same amalgam.
    The most simple thing is that people commit horrific crimes all the time. Psychos, serial killers, criminals, etc.

    The simplest thing is that Muslims do not mind such crimes.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1057925813


    and such crimes are not persecuted or denounced in many Muslim countries and/or by the essential part or may be the overwhelming majority of Muslim clergy blossoming in Muslim and other countries, - including the US and the Western Europe, when such crimes are persecuted and denounced by any other civilized human being, - Christian, or Jewish or whatever.

    One has to be completely immoral in order not to see the H U G E difference and to attempt to equate oranges and apples.

    In a civilized society such beheadings are considered to be a horrific crime and an unimaginable deviation from norms of the society, when in a Muslim society it is either no crime or not a significant crime or not a significant deviation from a norm, when Muslim make videos of beheading journalists and other captives and post such videos practically bragging about such actions. When I see individuals trying to scrub everything possible, every rumor, every unconfirmed allegation and to make a post in oredr to conclude something like - ‘’So what, we are the same”, I feel a chill like I am watching cannibals in action. They never get tired of posting their morality of cannibals again and again.

    Yes, they are the same.

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