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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Do you have source for your assertion, or is it part of your mindless bullcrap rhetoric?
    Oh please. This is basic information unless you're too busy calling Americans terrorists during World War II

    Nidal Hasan, Abdulmutallab and Humam al-Balawi are jihadists who were educated and came from privileged middle- and upper-class backgrounds. Hasan was an American-trained U. S. Army doctor, Abdulmutallab was a London engineering student and the son of a wealthy Nigerian banker, and double-agent Dr. Humam al-Balawi was a member of the Jordanian professional class.

    9/11 terrorists Mohammed Atta and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed were both beneficiaries of Western university educations.


    The Educated Muslim Terrorist | FrontPage Magazine

    Speaking to CNN producer Ayman Mohyeldin Tuesday in his apartment in the upper-middle-class Cairo suburb of Giza, Mohamed el-Amir said he would like to see more attacks like the July 7 bombings of three London subway trains and a bus that killed 52 people, plus the four bombers.

    CNN.com - Atta's father praises London bombs - Jul 20, 2005

    The 7 11 bombers. All educated alll middle class.

    For God's sake Degreeez this is basic knowledge unless you are in complete denial.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Do you have any evidence that she is being two faced? Or how about the 10 or so close Muslim friends I have? I don't understand how you can judge an entire religion off an extremist minority.
    If you've studied Islam at all, you have to agree that it is a proselytizing, expansionist religion. Islam believes that it has a mandate from God to spread around the world with the eventual goal that everyone will be Muslim. One, single issue separates Islam from the others and creates a potential threat. While Islam would be perfectly happy if everyone they encountered converted voluntarily, of their free will, they are commanded to convert by force if they can't do it peacefully. Further, deception of non-believers is not just forgiven, it is encouraged. This makes it pretty damn tough to trust them at their word.

    Now, I'm truly sorry for who this offends, but I don't care if they are serving in the US military because, we are at war

    I don't care about moderates and here is why. Your moderate may preach against violence, abhor violence or even fight other radical Muslims. But if they raise or influence one other person to become a Muslim, they have created a ticking time bomb. Because they can't guarantee that that one won't read the Koran and decide they're a true believer and are going to follow ALL of it.

    The radical Muslims we fight are not "radicals", they are simply true believers and the moderates are really lukewarm, or apostate. They follow what they want to follow, or allows them to be comfortable and you will never know when today's moderate will suddenly get a dose of conscience and become a true believer. Or their son or daughter, or grandchild, or great grandchild.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    You still haven't given any evidence Ric on how I am two faced.

    Instead you have gone off on a rant about God knows what.
    Another Muslim conspiracy no doubt.


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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    What would you expect her to do from London? I mean she says she doesn't agree with them and she would turn them in. What else can she do from where she is?
    I would expect her not to go to a Mosque headed by someone who considers himself a part of one of the five major Islamic sects. Do Christians who don't believe in organized religion go to church? No. If she says that doesn't support these things then why does she go to a mainstream Mosque?

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    I would expect her not to go to a Mosque headed by someone who considers himself a part of one of the five major Islamic sects. Do Christians who don't believe in organized religion go to church? No. If she says that doesn't support these things then why does she go to a mainstream Mosque?
    Ohhh so I should isolate myself from fellow Muslims because they dare to follow a sect?

    What is a mainstream mosque? No two Mosques or Imams are the same, bleeding twit


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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The typology of most terrorists is middle/upper class and relatively well educated:
    "Active during the 1966-1976 time span."

    Do you have something that is actually recent and relative? Something not from 40 years ago.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    I would expect her not to go to a Mosque headed by someone who considers himself a part of one of the five major Islamic sects. Do Christians who don't believe in organized religion go to church? No. If she says that doesn't support these things then why does she go to a mainstream Mosque?
    There is no 'head' of a mosque. There's a person chosen to lead the people during prayers (the Imam), but he has no authority over any Muslim. Neither does the person or group who owns the mosque (unless they prohibit them from entering).

    Mind explaining what a 'mainstream mosque' is? Anyone can come into a mosque, it is a house of worship. I've even brought some of my Christian friends to my mosque (there's a basketball court there). They were quite surprised people come and go as they please throughout the day.

    Despite whatever it is you believe, you have completely skewed view of Islam.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Ohhh so I should isolate myself from fellow Muslims because they dare to follow a sect?
    No you should isolate yourself from an ideology which promotes intolerance and oppression. Do Christians who don't believe in organized religion go to church every Sunday? I think not.

    What is a mainstream mosque?
    Any which subscribes to anyone of the five major schools of Islamic Fiqh and supports the Ijma decided upon by the Ulama. Basically if your Mosque isn't vocally and adamantly opposed to the current Ijma then I would consider it part of the problem.

    No two Mosques or Imams are the same, bleeding twit
    All mainstream sects believe the aforementioned things. If you are a member of a Mosque which is a part of one of the main five sects then you are part of that.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    There is no 'head' of a mosque. There's a person chosen to lead the people during prayers (the Imam), but he has no authority over any Muslim. Neither does the person or group who owns the mosque (unless they prohibit them from entering).
    You're right of course there is no such thing as the Ulama, there is no such thing as Fiqh, and there is no such thing as Ijma.

    Mind explaining what a 'mainstream mosque' is?
    Anyone of them that does not advocate against the five main schools of Islamic Fiqh and the Ijma of the Ulama.

    Anyone can come into a mosque, it is a house of worship. I've even brought some of my Christian friends to my mosque (there's a basketball court there). They were quite surprised people come and go as they please throughout the day.

    Despite whatever it is you believe, you have completely skewed view of Islam.
    No sir I do not, all five mainstream sects of Islam believe that apostasy, homosexuality, and adultery are capital offenses and that premarital sex is punished through 100 lashes. That is current Islamic dogma and the only accepted interpretation today within mainstream Islam.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    "Active during the 1966-1976 time span."

    Do you have something that is actually recent and relative? Something not from 40 years ago.
    Ya because the human species changed so much in the last 30 years. That is like saying that the typology of a serial killer actually changes with time.
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