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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    You don't actually expect people to believe that do you?
    Believe this

    Women in Islam are considered as deficient in mind and religion. The testimony of a woman in the courts is worth only half a man's testimony. The same thing pertains in matters of inheritance, for a ˜man's portion is worth as much as two women's portions.' When it comes to the rights of a divorced woman, her husband is responsible for her needs for three months only. In fact, a woman's status is on par with animals.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Oh, and you gotta love this nugget on Islamic terrorism. Most of these poor soul terrorist don't come from poor backgrounds, they come from educated, middleclass to wealthy social strata. Its natural to conclude that such a terrorist is not motivated by an injustice to themselves. They use the springboard that western education and capitolism provide to transform themselves into not so smart-bombs killing the multiple hands that have fed them.
    Do you have source for your assertion, or is it part of your mindless bullcrap rhetoric?

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Women in Islam are considered as deficient in mind and religion.
    Is that Islam or your opinion of Muslim women shining through?


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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Do you have source for your assertion, or is it part of your mindless bullcrap rhetoric?
    The typology of most terrorists is middle/upper class and relatively well educated:

    One of the best known, most comprehensive, and most often cited of these efforts is a profile developed by Russell and Miller (1977110) based on a compilation of published data regarding over 350 individual terrorist cadres and leaders across 18 different Palestinian, Japanese, German, Italian, Turkish, Irish, Spanish, Iranian, Argentina, Brazilian, and Uruguayan terrorist groups active during the 1966-1976 time span. The prototype derived from their composite described a young (22-25), unmarried male who is an urban resident, from a middle-upper class family, has some university education and probably held an extremist political philosophy.

    http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/208552.pdf

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    You don't actually expect people to believe that do you?
    Where the **** have I ever ****ing implied that I ****ing hate Muslims? If you don't hate an ideology that promotes capital punishment for apostasy, homosexuality, and adultery and corporal punishment for premarital, and 4 male witnesses for rape and if you can't provide 4 male witnesses then the women are tried for adultery or premarital sex and beaten and killed then there is something seriously seriously wrong with you. That IS ISLAM as we know it today, that is mainstream Islam, if you belong to a major Islamic sect those are the principles which are considered dogma, there is not a single major branch of Islam that does not promote those principles, the Ulama of all five schools of Islamic figh have formed an Ijma on those principles.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Is that Islam or your opinion of Muslim women shining through?
    There are plenty of religions out there that flat out shouldn't be practiced because they infringe on the fundamental rights of the individual, but Islam takes top honours.

    As far as I am concerned, any law that infringes on the practice of either is fine in my book as they are barbaric practices that deny people basic human rights under the guise of religion.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    I just don't understand why you would go to meetings of an organization which promoted things which you adamantly opposed. You said it yourself you don't have to belong to a sect to be a Muslim so why to go to one of the Mosques which is owned, operated, and promotes one of the sects?
    Reason why, I referred to her as being passive. She passively supports. The difference being, a passive supporter won't go out of his/her way to participate, give aid, assistance, etc., but neither will he/she do anything to impede

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Reason why, I referred to her as being passive. She passively supports. The difference being, a passive supporter won't go out of his/her way to participate, give aid, assistance, etc., but neither will he/she do anything to impede
    What would you expect her to do from London? I mean she says she doesn't agree with them and she would turn them in. What else can she do from where she is?

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    What would you expect her to do from London? I mean she says she doesn't agree with them and she would turn them in. What else can she do from where she is?
    Read on

    Qur'an 3:28


    Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination.



    When Muslims are outnumbered by a stronger adversary like the US for instance, believers (Muslims) are allowed to show friendship outwardly but NEVER inwardly

    So, basically when Muslims are outnumbered they are supposed to have two faces. Inwardly, they hate the unbelievers and long for the day Islam will dominate and outwardly, Muslims are allowed to pretend to be peaceful, tolerant, loving and kind

    Bottom line - Smiling in our faces while cursing us in their hearts

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Read on

    Qur'an 3:28


    Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination.



    When Muslims are outnumbered by a stronger adversary like the US for instance, believers (Muslims) are allowed to show friendship outwardly but NEVER inwardly

    So, basically when Muslims are outnumbered they are supposed to have two faces. Inwardly, they hate the unbelievers and long for the day Islam will dominate and outwardly, Muslims are allowed to pretend to be peaceful, tolerant, loving and kind

    Bottom line - Smiling in our faces while cursing us in their hearts
    Do you have any evidence that she is being two faced? Or how about the 10 or so close Muslim friends I have? I don't understand how you can judge an entire religion off an extremist minority.

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