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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Hmm what stereotype is that? Other than another lame attempt on these boards to demonize muslims...

    how about this then?

    Teen guilty of 'thrill kill' murder, beheading - CNN.com



    That dont sound like muslim names.. do they?

    BBC NEWS | Americas | Bus murder suspect says 'kill me'

    Or that.. Mr. Li is a Church member!!! and he beheaded someone!!!..

    Virginia Tech Beheading

    OHHH a Chinaman beheads someone!!..
    Don't bother Pete, there are people in this thread with a single mission. To hate on Islam and to inspire that hate in others, they have no use for these "facts"

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Don't bother Pete, there are people in this thread with a single mission. To hate on Islam and to inspire that hate in others, they have no use for these "facts"
    Was bored waiting, for me dinner...... but else you are right.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Yeah, that's such a fair comparison too. You are comparing the sane normal people on your side with the extremists on her side.
    I'm less interested in what should be theoretically done, and more interested on what's going to happen and prepare for it and mitigate the consequences. The sort of events that would lead up to a modern confrontation are already in play, and don't require people to change their viewpoints and way of dealing with things.

    Not saying that's what I want to happen, but I don't see any evidence that a peaceful transition will happen anytime soon. To the contrary if history is any guide violence is almost always the path that's taken. To me the only question is what city/cities will be the next and when will it happen.

    There are no ifs here....only whens

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    This happens in all cultures. Just look at the Mormons out in West Texas.
    lol what? Where are the beheadings of those people?
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Don't bother Pete, there are people in this thread with a single mission. To hate on Islam and to inspire that hate in others, they have no use for these "facts"
    But there is precendence in Islam for beheadings Jet.


    So when you meeting those who disbelieve smite at their necks till you have killed and wounded many of them then bind a bond firmly. Thereafter either for generosity or ranson until the war lays down its burden... Sura Muhammad 47:4


    Remember they Lord inspired the angels "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their funger-tips off them. Anfal Sura 8:12


    http://www.muhammadanism.org/Islam/islam_beheading.pdf

    And not just from the Qur'an. Islamic terrrorists have beheaded many people on camera who were not Muslim.

    Its not that beheadings don't occur in people who are not Muslim but there is no greater precedent than Islam has for this particular form of murder.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    But there is precendence in Islam for beheadings Jet.


    So when you meeting those who disbelieve smite at their necks till you have killed and wounded many of them then bind a bond firmly. Thereafter either for generosity or ranson until the war lays down its burden... Sura Muhammad 47:4


    Remember they Lord inspired the angels "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their funger-tips off them. Anfal Sura 8:12


    http://www.muhammadanism.org/Islam/islam_beheading.pdf

    And not just from the Qur'an. Islamic terrrorists have beheaded many people on camera who were not Muslim.

    Its not that beheadings don't occur in people who are not Muslim but there is no greater precedent than Islam has for this particular form of murder.
    Of course I'm aware theirs a presedence.

    But it's redundant to add that precedence to a billion people.

    South Africa has a high level of rape. Does that make me a rapist?

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Don't bother Pete, there are people in this thread with a single mission. To hate on Islam and to inspire that hate in others, they have no use for these "facts"
    Ya let's look at the facts, every single solitary sect of mainstream Islam holds apostasy, sodomy, and adultery as capital offenses and premarital sex as a corporal offense. Yes I hate an ideology which posits such insane backwards views. What I don't hate are Muslims who are openly opposed to the Islamic Ulama which has created this Fiqh through Ijma but it is the Ulama that speaks for mainstream Islam and those who openly advocate against that Ijma are in the fringe minority and denying these facts only makes their very difficult mission of reform even more difficult, you can't fix a problem until you actually recognize and admit that there is a problem and there is a huge problem with the mainstream Islamic hierarchy and dogma which is glaringly obvious to anyone not wearing cultural relativist blinders. Tolerance of intolerance is not a virtue.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    What I don't hate are Muslims .....
    You don't actually expect people to believe that do you?


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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I'm less interested in what should be theoretically done, and more interested on what's going to happen and prepare for it and mitigate the consequences. The sort of events that would lead up to a modern confrontation are already in play, and don't require people to change their viewpoints and way of dealing with things.

    Not saying that's what I want to happen, but I don't see any evidence that a peaceful transition will happen anytime soon. To the contrary if history is any guide violence is almost always the path that's taken. To me the only question is what city/cities will be the next and when will it happen.

    There are no ifs here....only whens
    Well, there won't be a peaceful anything until people stop making snap judgments about Muslims based on stereotypes and stop blaming all Muslims for the actions of the extremists.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Well, there won't be a peaceful anything until people stop making snap judgments about Muslims based on stereotypes and stop blaming all Muslims for the actions of the extremists.
    It doesn't surprise me that trying to attach an entailed sequence of logical progression to the process of Jihad or the application of Sharia in a western nation is a waste of time with you people In fact the West twist themselves into over baked pretzels trying to make logic out of the illogical emotional sequence that creates Islamic terrorists. The Western media does this only because they can't comprehend an enemy who wants to kill them for no empirical or rational reason.

    Oh, and you gotta love this nugget on Islamic terrorism. Most of these poor soul terrorist don't come from poor backgrounds, they come from educated, middleclass to wealthy social strata. Its natural to conclude that such a terrorist is not motivated by an injustice to themselves. They use the springboard that western education and capitolism provide to transform themselves into not so smart-bombs killing the multiple hands that have fed them.

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