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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

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    There is Ijma within the five main Islamic themselves and on most issues there is an Ijma between the five as well, there is an Ijma between all five concerning the punishment for apostasy, sodomy, and adultery.
    And yet muslims do not all follow such aspects do they?

    Indonesia does not have a track record of killing people for Apostasy, sodomy or adultery despite having the largest muslim population of any country. Pakistan has tended not to follow those rules and regulations.

    Let me guess though, they are not good muslims in your eyes though.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Rushdie: I was deranged when I embraced Islam -Times Online



    He is not a Muslim.

    Edit: Damn. Red got in there before me lol

    Um ya he never claimed that he wasn't a Muslim, he was saying that his claim that he had become a devout Muslim was only a pretense. Furthermore; once again Islamic jurisprudence is clear in the matter, all who are born to a Muslim father are by default Muslims, and if they leave the faith then they are apostates, and what's the punishment for apostasy again?

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Um ya he never claimed that he wasn't a Muslim, he was saying that his claim that he had become a devout Muslim was only a pretense. Furthermore; once again Islamic jurisprudence is clear in the matter, all who are born to a Muslim father are by default Muslims, and if they leave the faith then they are apostates, and what's the punishment for apostasy again?
    So Muslim is a race?

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    And yet muslims do not all follow such aspects do they?

    Indonesia does not have a track record of killing people for Apostasy, sodomy or adultery despite having the largest muslim population of any country.
    That's because they have secular governments, that says absolutely nothing about the Islamic religious hierarchy.

    Pakistan has tended not to follow those rules and regulations.
    Bull****, in Pakistan they have what is known as the Hudood Ordinance, adultery, apostasy, and homosexuality were all capital offenses. This was only very recently revised in 2006 by the womens protection act, which did nothing to change the punishments for apostasy, adultery, or homosexuality, however, what it did do was make it so rape could be prosecuted in civil rather than Sharia court; whereas, prior women had to provide 4 male witnesses to prove rape and if they failed to provide 4 witnesses they themselves would either be prosecuted for adultery (and face execution) or prosecuted for premarital sex and suffer 100 lashes.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Furthermore; once again Islamic jurisprudence is clear in the matter, all who are born to a Muslim father are by default Muslims, and if they leave the faith then they are apostates, and what's the punishment for apostasy again?
    I could give a **** about apostates.
    It is not me who will be judged for other peoples sin, only God has that authority.
    I'm too preoccupied with keeping myself from hell and my own sins to be worrying about other people


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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So Muslim is a race?
    No it's an ideology and according to that ideology those born into that ideology must adhere to that ideology or they are considered guilty of apostasy.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    No it's an ideology and according to that ideology those born into that ideology must adhere to that ideology or they are considered guilty of apostasy.
    But Rushdie repudiated that ideology...
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I would never go to a sharia court to begin with anyway.

    Oh man this is getting in the reams of beyond epic stupidness.

    The Qu'ran states there is one God. No interpretation is needed. No difference of opinion there.
    Qu'ran states Prophet Mohammed is a messenger of God. No interpretation. No difference.
    And if a Muslim scholar or Imam today said that there was 2 gods what would happen? No Fatwa? No death warrant? You and I know exactly what would happen, if he was in a Muslim majority country he'd be dead in a week and if he was in the West he would have to seek protection from the state like Salman Rushdie and live the rest of his life watching his back.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    And if a Muslim scholar or Imam today said that there was 2 gods what would happen? No Fatwa? No death warrant? You and I know exactly what would happen, if he was in a Muslim majority country he'd be dead in a week and if he was in the West he would have to seek protection from the state like Salman Rushdie and live the rest of his life watching his back.
    Hah.
    No Muslim would ever do that.


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