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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

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    They will be judged by the Ulama before they are judged by their god. Maybe that's not the way you want it to be but that's the way it is.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    lol no it's a group of Muslim scholars which determine Islamic Fiqh IE Law, and they form consensus opinions with one another to form Ijma. It is a decentralized leadership structure but it comes to consensus centralized legal opinions which establish a set Islamic law.
    And no Muslim has to accept it as they do not speak on behalf of Allah or his Prophets.


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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    According to him he is not a Muslim.
    Really? When did Salman Rushdie ever renounce Islam and claim he was not a Muslim?

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    According to who you? If he's not a Muslim what is he? An apostate?
    According to him actually. I would think he would know.

    Rushdie: I was deranged when I embraced Islam -Times Online

    SIR SALMAN RUSHDIE has confessed that he pretended to “embrace Islam” in the hope that it would reduce the threat of Muslims acting on the fatwa to kill him
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Really? When did Salman Rushdie ever renounce Islam and claim he was not a Muslim?
    Rushdie: I was deranged when I embraced Islam -Times Online
    SALMAN RUSHDIE has confessed that he pretended to “embrace Islam” in the hope that it would reduce the threat of Muslims acting on the fatwa to kill him.
    Rushdie now claims his reversion to the religion of his birth was all a “pretence”.
    He is not a Muslim.

    Edit: Damn. Red got in there before me lol


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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    lol no it's a group of Muslim scholars which determine Islamic Fiqh IE Law, and they form consensus opinions with one another to form Ijma. It is a decentralized leadership structure but it comes to consensus centralized legal opinions which establish a set Islamic law.
    Yet I doubt the Shia follow everything they say, or the Sufi, or the Deobandi or the salafi etc.

    If they did, there would not be 5 different main sects of Islam as the Ijma would declare which version is the correct one
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    And no Muslim has to accept it as they do not speak on behalf of Allah or his Prophets.
    So if you go to a Sharia court you don't have to accept the judgement of that court? Are you saying that Imams don't have to accept established Islamic dogma? So right now what you're telling me is that a Muslim Imam right now could say in public that there is more than one God than Allah and Mohammad is not his prophet and he would not be accused of heresy and have a fatwa death warrant issued against him?

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    So if you go to a Sharia court you don't have to accept the judgement of that court? Are you saying that Imams don't have to accept established Islamic dogma? So right now what you're telling me is that a Muslim Imam right now could say in public that there is more than one God than Allah and Mohammad is not his prophet and he would not be accused of heresy and have a fatwa death warrant issued against him?
    I would never go to a sharia court to begin with anyway.

    Oh man this is getting in the reams of beyond epic stupidness.

    The Qu'ran states there is one God. No interpretation is needed. No difference of opinion there.
    Qu'ran states Prophet Mohammed is a messenger of God. No interpretation. No difference.


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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Rushdie: I was deranged when I embraced Islam -Times Online



    He is not a Muslim.

    Edit: Damn. Red got in there before me lol
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Yet I doubt the Shia follow everything they say, or the Sufi, or the Deobandi or the salafi etc.

    If they did, there would not be 5 different main sects of Islam as the Ijma would declare which version is the correct one
    There is Ijma within the five main Islamic themselves and on most issues there is an Ijma between the five as well, there is an Ijma between all five concerning the punishment for apostasy, sodomy, and adultery.

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