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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

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    You are absolutely right, can't seperate Islam form the muslim. My attempt to reach out has been rejected, you have convinced me that my hatred for Islam is justified as is my hatred for the muslim.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You may go to mosque for your spiritual fulfillment but may not ascribe to everything an Imam says.
    Exactly.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Things may be different in context but the southern Baptist sect of Christianity can be pretty strict.
    One of our forum members happens to be what I consider a liberal Baptist.

    You may go to mosque for your spiritual fulfillment but may not ascribe to everything an Imam says.
    Sounds to me like a person who doesn't hate Jews going to a Nazi rally. This line of reasoning would not work with any other ideology save for a religious one, "I disagree with central tenets of your philosophy but I'm still going to claim to be a practioner of it and go to speeches promoting these central tenets every weekend."

    Anyways if you are a baptist and you start vocally promoting say the right to an abortion you will find yourself kicked out of the church.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Sounds to me like a person who doesn't hate Jews going to a Nazi rally. This line of reasoning would not work with any other ideology save for a religious one, "I disagree with central tenets of your philosophy but I'm still going to claim to be a practioner of it and go to speeches promoting these central tenets every weekend."

    Anyways if you are a baptist and you start vocally promoting say the right to an abortion you will find yourself kicked out of the church.
    That's not it at all.

    As a younger guy I went several places of worship where I didn't ascribe to their beliefs fully.
    My parents were Christians and went to a church that believed in the holy trinity, I don't.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    That is not leadership or representation of Islam or me.
    I am my only representation. I should be judged as a person rather than as one of many followers of a religion.
    My Imam leads my prayers and if I have a problem, I will discuss it with him and he will advise me on what the best course of action is and ofc, I go to him if I have questions regarding the Qu'ran, Why shouldn't I go to him even if he is with a sect?
    Well if you want to go to someone for advice who not only believes but promottes the ideas that people should be stoned to death for adultery, homosexuality, and apostasy; and that you should be lashed 100 times for premarital sex then whatever floats your boat. It doesn't make much sense to me to go to listen to such a sick misguided backwards individual week in and week out if you don't actually agree with what he's teaching, but hey what do I know.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Well if you want to go to someone for advice who not only believes but promottes the ideas that people should be stoned to death for adultery, homosexuality, and apostasy; and that you should be lashed 100 times for premarital sex then whatever floats your boat. It doesn't make much sense to me to go to listen to such a sick misguided backwards individual week in and week out if you don't actually agree with what he's teaching, but hey what do I know.
    My Imam does not condone or support such action and never has. Not once in his lectures that I have sat in and listened to does he preach for death for those who have sex outside of marriage.

    GG on spreading lies and misinformation.


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    They say that hatred is born out of ignorance. Im not so sure of that. It seems the more I learn the more I hate.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's not it at all.

    As a younger guy I went several places of worship where I didn't ascribe to their beliefs fully.
    My parents were Christians and went to a church that believed in the holy trinity, I don't.
    If you do not believe in the holy trinity you can not be a Catholic. Why would you go to a Catholic church if you don't believe in the Catholic dogma? Once again it would be like a libertarian going to weekly communist rallys.

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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Sounds to me like a person who doesn't hate Jews going to a Nazi rally. This line of reasoning would not work with any other ideology save for a religious one, "I disagree with central tenets of your philosophy but I'm still going to claim to be a practioner of it and go to speeches promoting these central tenets every weekend."

    Anyways if you are a baptist and you start vocally promoting say the right to an abortion you will find yourself kicked out of the church.
    You do know that there is no central authority in nearly all Muslim sects. That an Iman may have a differening opinion then what other Imans have on various interpretations of the Quran.
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    Re: Orchard Park businessman charged in beheading of wife

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    My Imam does not condone or support such action and never has. Not once in his lectures that I have sat in and listened to does he preach for death for those who have sex outside of marriage.

    GG on spreading lies and misinformation.
    So then he is not a Sunni or a Shia and can not be subscribing to any of the five major schools of Islamic fiqh.
    Last edited by Agent Ferris; 07-19-10 at 01:45 AM.

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