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    Re: RNC chairman: voters have 'no reason' to trust GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm starting to love how Conservatives like danarhea have tried to rewrite history to exclude the facts that Ronald Reagan, the Christian right of America and Neo-Conservatism didn't run around hand in hand during his entire presidency.

    You do know that the Christian right wing groups of America are the leading force behind Neo-Conservatism right? This is the very group who got Ronald Reagan elected. It was the Pat Robertsons, Benny Hinns, Ted Haggards of the 1980s who got Ronald Reagan elected. These are the VERY same people who supported the U.S. government's giving arms to the Taliban during the first Afghanistan war. They are the modern day supporters of neo-con think tanks like the Heritage Foundation. They were the people who believed in the 'regime change' Ronald Reagan tried to bring in Panama and then his expansion of our military to fight off communism. They were the same people who supported the 'Moral Majority' of America which ran out in droves to support Ronald Reagan. Returning to the era of Reagan is not saying much as far as getting rid of neo-cons considering how many of them were already working under him while he was president.

    It's a bit sad though because all these things are verifiable if one does a little research :

    Revising Ronald Reagan: Was the 40th president a peace-loving moderate? - Reason Magazine

    US News / Special: Empire Builders / Neocon 101 | Christian Science Monitor

    So in conclusion what do we have? The Conservative Pipe Dream that all things were rosy during Ronald Reagan's era. The Christian Right did not exist and that Neo-Cons hadn't infiltrated the administration of even the great and mighty Ronald Reagan to the point where they were his trusted advisers in government matters. I think dana that you are either living in denial or willfully ignorant of the shared history of Neo-Cons, the Christian Right, the GOP and Ronald Reagan.
    Except that Christian Science Monitor greatly exaggerates the cohesive ideology of Neoconservatism in foreign affairs.

    The problem is people view Neoconservatism like some sort of toxic residue, which thus discolors how people should view it. It creates the simplistic notion that you can easily suggest most Neoconservatives are the same or that wherever they become involved, it is a poisonous venture. They become the enemy rather than an interesting political phenomenon which from time to time has crossed mainstream political discussion and policy formation.
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    Re: RNC chairman: voters have 'no reason' to trust GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Steele made these comments yesterday on FOX News.

    And you know what? Michael Steele is absolutely right. It is going to be a real uphill climb to win back voters who are angry at the Republican party betrayal of Conservative values, and no longer trust the GOP. Some people might not want to hear it, but it is true, and Steele's candor on the issue is refreshing.

    But, in order to change, the Republican party is going to have to abandon the "big tent" approach it had under Reagan. The Neocon trash has been taken out and kicked the the curb, and that is where it needs to stay. Conservative values cannot ever again be watered down with Neocon fake-Conservative ideology. If you have to ask why, you need only to take a look around you, at the results of the largest betrayal of Conservative voters in the history of the Republican party.

    To the Neocons - Take a hike and stop whining. You lost. Your ideals don't work. The proof was the result of your being in power. Either get with the program, or watch the rebuilding of the Republican party from the sidelines. It's your choice.

    Article is here.
    Did you or did you not vote for McCain??? Then you should stop your whining. BTW, Bush retired.
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    Re: RNC chairman: voters have 'no reason' to trust GOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I really hope he give us a strong candidate.

    The GOP is not to be trusted. Just because Obama is worse doesn't mean we should go back to the GOP. If there's a viable 3rd option I'd love to explore it.
    Steele was speaking Klar text. The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The republicans have made a small first step with their recent and blanket opposition to Porkzilla.

    A third party? No thanks... unless...'s the green party or some Marxist group as a third option.
    Something that will split up the Socialist Bloc.

    The way things are going, the Republicans could run on The Contract with America again.
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    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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