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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Show me how it goes into the economy. I will wait.
    They will employ people and buy products. Buying products keep the people who make said products employed. They aren't writing a check to critters.
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Inflation. Robbing Peter to give the perception of having the money to pay Paul.
    I agree this will cause inflation.

    That doesn't mean the devalued money doesn't go back into the economy though.
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There's government spending, and then there's actual economic stimulation.

    Taxing a business owner so you can pay a person $15/hr to dig a ditch and fill it back up is the former

    Allowing a business owner to keep enough of his money to expand his business, allowing for the creation of a $15/hr job within that business is the latter.
    If there is no demand for the employer's goods/service, making more goods/service won't matter. Do you think GM's problem is that they can't make enough cars?
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I agree this will cause inflation.

    That doesn't mean the devalued money doesn't go back into the economy though.
    It may go back into the economy or it may head out to another nations economy.
    But you and everyone else just lost a portion of the value of our money for this junk.

    Everyone is paying for this junk.
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by googooflexy View Post
    Sure...
    Take money from those who earned it to give it to those who don't. And then hope that they go out and buy lots of big screen tv's and american cars.

    I hardly see that as a good idea.
    That would be tax and spend. This is borrow and spend. That's what our economy has been running on for almost 30 years. The alternative is an economic standstill.
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    The recession is projected to end in 2009, yet only 107 billion of the money is scheduled to be spent this year.

    Why do we need to spend the remaining 680 billion?? Oh yeah, it's so the Dems can create a permanent patronage system.
    Link please?
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    If there is no demand for the employer's goods/service, making more goods/service won't matter.
    You're thinking too simply. There's more to 'exapnding business' than simply making more of the same stuff.

    And, of course, you failed to address the point itself -- the 'difference' you asked for.

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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It may go back into the economy or it may head out to another nations economy.
    But you and everyone else just lost a portion of the value of our money for this junk.

    Everyone is paying for this junk.
    This is true. Doing nothing will lead to double digit unemployment and more welfare. It's a catch 22.
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You're thinking too simply. There's more to 'exapnding business' than simply making more of the same stuff.

    And, of course, you failed to address the point itself -- the 'difference' you asked for.
    Link to digging ditches and filling them back up?
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    They will employ people and buy products. Buying products keep the people who make said products employed. They aren't writing a check to critters.



    Show me where 30 million bucks spent, will stimulate the economy with some 40k a year jobs.


    can you do more than speculate please.
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